while we’re still supplying arms to israel lmao gtfo
UnintentionalWipe on
They’re still selling arms to them though. And our PM still said he wanted a Zionist Palestine.
hereslewy on
Only took what, 60k+ deaths since the genocidal escalation started.
stevesyellowsweater on
so another light ultimatum by a western country got it!
Scared_Positive_8690 on
I don’t really know what all of these countries suddenly trying to achieve by recognising Palestine because while it sounds amazing, it changes nothing on the ground because Israel does not want a two-state solution and they will not feel pressured by all these countries because the Trump administration also doesn’t want a two-state solution.
Did we reach the point where even these countries know that they were complicit in a genocide so they quickly want to save face by recognising Palestine therefore history will not judge them as harshly? Recognition is cool but first we need to stop the genocide which would require these countries to actually consider sanctions.
Cube_ on
I know it’s easy to be dismissive of things like this but it’s genuinely a small win and this is how change happens on a grander scale.
The small wins pile up and the permission structure changes. This is how a lot of countries and organizations will slowly shift to calling it a genocide like it is and then eventually pretending like they always did that from day one.
It’s a good sign.
Chiikaware on
Why recognize in September?? why not now? Also, how about not funding Isr@el???
Am ashamed to be Canadian…
OMJuwara on
Recognizing Palestine is good and all, but how about assisting in stopping the ethnic cleansing?
crystal_clear24 on
I watched the presser and was annoyed none of the journalists asked about them still selling weapons to Israel despite the previous government telling us they stopped.
roxy031 on
This is so complex because on the one hand I want to take this as a small win but on the other hand Canada is still sending weapons to Israel, so it’s not really a win. No contingencies, no supporting Israel, free Palestine.
LucyOnline on
Pretending you’re helping while fueling the fire
itried1995 on
I want to make this abundantly clear that this is contingent on the Palestinian Authority taking control, agreeing to major reforms and any future Palestinian state being completely demilitarized. So basically Israel will still be able to commit it’s genocide after a Palestinian state is recognized. Additionally, the Palestinian Authority is basically an Israeli collaborator. They kidnap Palestinians for the Israeli state and they will brutalize Palestinians for Israel.
Overall, this is a very very small step in the right direction. The only solution should be a 1 state solution, where everybody has equal rights.
Edit: Also want to add, this is basically a reservation. We all know how much Canada loves corralling indigenous people on to a small piece of land and ensuring they can’t defend themselves. I’m sure in 50 years Israelis will also be doing shitty land acknowledgements.
Connect_Leadership18 on
I don’t get why they’re waiting till September. If you have to do it – why not just do it now
crani0 on
So Israel has the next month to finish the job in Gaza? Or they can keep going with zero consequences?
imaswannn on
An ultimatum to recognize a country that’s existed for centuries… awesome job Carney. And this is why I didn’t vote for the liberals last election.🙂
DrasticAnalysis on
*in September
**If certain conditions are not met.
CellsReinvent on
Starmer made the same announcement today – exactly the same wording – from the UK.
Is this the grown up nations trying overruling Trump’s backing, or maybe they’re playing “bad cop” (altough that would make Trump good cop so that can’t be right)?
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Still sending weapons to Israel tho so…
“contingent upon” is where you lose me, cos you know they’ll just not do it and blame the contingencies.
this is toothless declarations to try and look less complicit after it was reported they’re sending weapons to Israel.
I am saddened and ashamed to say that this comes on the heels of a report from CBC that Canada has continued to supply Israel with weapons, claiming that “Canadian [government figures](https://www.international.gc.ca/transparency-transparence/controls-controles/military-goods-2024-marchandises-militaires.aspx?lang=eng) show that Israel was Canada’s fourth-most frequent customer for military equipment that year, with 164 permits used”. My brain is soup these days, so here’s the article to check it out for yourselves:
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arms-ammunition-shipments-israel-canada-1.7596091](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arms-ammunition-shipments-israel-canada-1.7596091)
while we’re still supplying arms to israel lmao gtfo
They’re still selling arms to them though. And our PM still said he wanted a Zionist Palestine.
Only took what, 60k+ deaths since the genocidal escalation started.
so another light ultimatum by a western country got it!
I don’t really know what all of these countries suddenly trying to achieve by recognising Palestine because while it sounds amazing, it changes nothing on the ground because Israel does not want a two-state solution and they will not feel pressured by all these countries because the Trump administration also doesn’t want a two-state solution.
Did we reach the point where even these countries know that they were complicit in a genocide so they quickly want to save face by recognising Palestine therefore history will not judge them as harshly? Recognition is cool but first we need to stop the genocide which would require these countries to actually consider sanctions.
I know it’s easy to be dismissive of things like this but it’s genuinely a small win and this is how change happens on a grander scale.
The small wins pile up and the permission structure changes. This is how a lot of countries and organizations will slowly shift to calling it a genocide like it is and then eventually pretending like they always did that from day one.
It’s a good sign.
Why recognize in September?? why not now? Also, how about not funding Isr@el???
Am ashamed to be Canadian…
Recognizing Palestine is good and all, but how about assisting in stopping the ethnic cleansing?
I watched the presser and was annoyed none of the journalists asked about them still selling weapons to Israel despite the previous government telling us they stopped.
This is so complex because on the one hand I want to take this as a small win but on the other hand Canada is still sending weapons to Israel, so it’s not really a win. No contingencies, no supporting Israel, free Palestine.
Pretending you’re helping while fueling the fire
I want to make this abundantly clear that this is contingent on the Palestinian Authority taking control, agreeing to major reforms and any future Palestinian state being completely demilitarized. So basically Israel will still be able to commit it’s genocide after a Palestinian state is recognized. Additionally, the Palestinian Authority is basically an Israeli collaborator. They kidnap Palestinians for the Israeli state and they will brutalize Palestinians for Israel.
Overall, this is a very very small step in the right direction. The only solution should be a 1 state solution, where everybody has equal rights.
Edit: Also want to add, this is basically a reservation. We all know how much Canada loves corralling indigenous people on to a small piece of land and ensuring they can’t defend themselves. I’m sure in 50 years Israelis will also be doing shitty land acknowledgements.
I don’t get why they’re waiting till September. If you have to do it – why not just do it now
So Israel has the next month to finish the job in Gaza? Or they can keep going with zero consequences?
An ultimatum to recognize a country that’s existed for centuries… awesome job Carney. And this is why I didn’t vote for the liberals last election.🙂
*in September
**If certain conditions are not met.
Starmer made the same announcement today – exactly the same wording – from the UK.
Is this the grown up nations trying overruling Trump’s backing, or maybe they’re playing “bad cop” (altough that would make Trump good cop so that can’t be right)?
Edit: Starmer, not Starter