‘RHOC’ star Gina Kirschenheiter weighs in on Katie Ginella drama and more with ‘Virtual Reali-Tea’

‘RHOC’ star Gina Kirschenheiter weighs in on Katie Ginella drama and more with ‘Virtual Reali-Tea’

Are you the reason she quit? Well, I mean, am I not the reason I’ll say that? How shocking is that, right? I know. I was like, wait till they find out I pushed this over the edge. Virtual reality. Gina Kishider from the Real Housewives of Orange County. Danny and I are so excited to have some studio time with you today. We always have so much fun with you. I know we do. Oh my god. And this season of Real House at Orange County, I mean, it’s fun for us to watch. I hope it it’s fun to relive. Okay. Yeah. You all have been pretty busy. We have been busy. I have I have to say I have laughed a lot watching it. Okay, that’s good. Yeah. I mean, watching Emily laugh about the Dros in the bedroom was like that made my whole month. I rewound that like three times. I I also I didn’t know that like Heather Dra would open up like that. She is so fun this year, guys. So fun. There’s something different, right? Yeah. I feel like it’s she just gives less you know, and I think also she’s like very more comfortable. And also this is like the first year that somebody didn’t start out the season attacking her. I think that helped. Yeah. She came in kind of that. Yeah. I don’t know if it was like just like getting like contact high from Terry’s joints. Maybe a little bit. Maybe that’s a little bit. But that’s so true. Heather feels a little more disarmed and like kind of in good place with everybody. She really is. And she’s just more chill this year. And she’s honestly she’s more herself, right? She’s more herself, which I think is really lovely because people get to see that side of her where she can goof around about Terry and laugh with us about her bedroom antics. And I’m here makes your friendship with Heather easier because I know in the past it’s been a little bit up and down. Do you feel like this is the most stable it’s ever been? Yeah. I mean, I definitely piss her off this season. Don’t worry. There’s one coming up in particular that I really piss her off, guys. You can’t help yourself. I just It happens comes so natural to me. But do you know what I did love to see is you two banding together to try and be supportive towards Katie, the two people we never thought would be in Katie’s corner. I mean, that was wild. Tell us about the journey from going from that moment with Katie trying to help her out to where you guys are now because it doesn’t seem like Katie is in a good place with literally anyone. Yeah. And it’s really unfortunate, you know, it’s a it really is a bummer because like I really adored her when I first met her. And I think like the hard part is that like who I met when I first met her was just not the person who necessarily came to the table when the time was there. And I think she like she she the problem is that I think I think that it’s maybe the pressure of the housewife itself. I feel like women come into this and they think they have to like be strategic and it’s like a game they have to play and they have to like make contact with all the media and all the bloggers and the bravo content creators and d and it just comes back to bite you always you know and I think she got herself in a lot of hot water regarding that and then it’s like everybody just kept trying to like overlook things overlook things or be like okay this is but there just kept coming more and more and more things and I think that’s what got very difficult for us as a cast cuz does it seem like it’s a place now where any there could be a chance for her to get in better grace as any of you ladies or like I don’t even understand at this point like why why she would want to be there. You know what I mean? It’s like because it just didn’t work. It’s like and it is in my opinion all self-induced. It really is. But we’re this is where we’re at now. But also, I don’t make any of those decisions. I don’t, you know, whoever is there is there and I do my best to handle circumstances and people, you know, it’s just like anything else. A group of friends, a group of friends. You don’t have to be best friends with everybody. Yeah. And you don’t and whatever. It’s like that’s that is somebody that I have now deemed that like I don’t trust. And so I would approach that relationship in that way. But she’s also not the first person in the cast that I felt that way about, you know. So, is there more behavior to come that we will see play out that made her feel more untrustworthy to you? Okay, for sure. So, does it get worse than the blogger drama or is it more blogger drama? It’s just more of things that she was making up to these bloggers, you know, things that she was saying to these bloggers that are hurtful and, you know, untrue and damaging and not fair, you know, and I don’t understand. I don’t understand it because you see like I even I had I was I will be completely candid. I was holding on to the stuff that happened from last year because I felt like she didn’t truly apologize to me. Number one and number two, Emily’s my best friend. You know what I mean? So the nanny of it always going to piss you off. It pissed me off. But when she sat down at Hot Pot across from us and she made that apology to both Emily and I, I deem that as genuine. And from that point, I fully moved on. And that’s all you will see from me the entire time, you know, and it gets difficult because then I think things come up that were happening or were said to to bloggers and whatever that were from way before that even, you know, and so it gets tricky because it’s like, but I thought we were in such a good place in our relationship and I don’t even understand why you would be saying those things then about you to bloggers about I don’t about several people in the cast. And also it’s one of those things too where it’s like if you have those thoughts that you would want to central say it to our face and then we could have the conversation and have the hopeful resolution. That’s what really does upset me because I just wish that I’m upset about this, you know, and I do wish I was team Katie, you know, and I’m upset that when she we made that we got back on really good ground, she made that really nice apology and then we went to go get our hair scrubbed which looked so lovely. It was phenomenal. And that’s the time to tell me. I mean, I’m subdued. I’m in like a zen moment. Tell me everything you did. You know, that would have been the moment. And I I truly truly wish that Katie would have just opened up in that moment and said, “Look, I was pissed at you last year. I said XYZ. I’m sorry for it. Let’s move on.” You know, and and it just it doesn’t happen. So, it’s really it’s hard to come back from some of this stuff. What’s your take on the Kiki Monique of it all? Because Katie very much we love Kiki. Big fans of Kiki. Uh, but Katie very much said it did not hap happen as Kiki and or Tamara have said it has happened. So like what do you think happened there? I think that Kiki Mon’nique has zero reason. It would be the same thing if you two were put in that position. You would have zero reason to lie about what happened and it would not be to any benefit of Kiki to lie about this. She stands nothing to gain by lying about any of this and she’s also not somebody who has been proven to be uh a liar. You know, that’s the problem is we have to just take this for what it is and let’s look at the record here. And the record on Katie’s side is she’s been very frequently caught in things that are just not true, that she’s she said she’s had to apologize for a lot of things that she’s not told the truth about. And even the original thing with Tamara with that other blogger where she lied and she said, “I never even talked to that blogger.” And then it was like, “Oh, I actually talked to her, but I have no recollection of an entire conversation.” And it’s like even the truths are half truths. It’s like and it’s hard for you all to build on rocky foundation to kind of grow from there and everything. And I feel that is kind of like going on a lot in Orange County. There are you guys always are, you know, rebuilding some from Rocky Ground. I’m glad cuz seeing the preview for next week, I’m glad you and Tamara aren’t fighting because I didn’t realize cuz we saw in the preview. Oh, I see. It seems that Well, you know, I didn’t. Are you the reason she quit? What I was well not the reason I’ll say that how shocking is that right? I know. I was like, “Wait till they find out. I pushed this over the edge.” Like the last person I would have guessed, you’re yelling and you’re sloed. I know. I know. But you see, that was just I feel like that was just a case of you got to go to bed, girlfriend. You know, cuz that’s what I feel like. We’ll see. You were trying to help her. I’m always trying to help everybody out. I’m What am I? And like what was it just cuz also we don’t see Tamara that like tequil it up. Yeah, but it was just a preview. I mean, she goes down pretty quick, you know. I think you just there is more there. There’s a lot that happens. Also, Tamar is in a very emotional, sensitive space, you know. It’s not there. There’s so many things that go into this that lead to that moment. And I think you guys are just going to really enjoy seeing them all, you know. Um, but yeah, I do want to say one thing. I just want to make it very clear like with the Katie stuff because I do feel bad. I am not against Katie. I do not wish Katie anything bad. You know, I hope she thrives in her life. But like the unfortunate part is that like I just don’t see how I could have a real true authentic trusting relationship with her. And so that’s where I am at with it. What would be different about potentially rebuilding a friendship with her versus the way you’ve been able to rebuild with Shannon? Because y’all are besties now. I love to see it. So that’s true. That’s a good point. Seeing how you two have rebuilt gives me hope that anything is possible. But are I guess why with Katie is it sort of just like done? Yeah. I mean I that’s an that is an interesting valid point. Um I guess like well first of all I guess it’s just like which the Shannon of it all like we always kind of naturally buted heads but there was nothing that was like really that bad between the two of us but then she did do a whole you know I guess the difference is too I like to place things where they’re at. When Shannon made those comments about my children, my children, right? She was they weren’t that was not great. That obviously was like I was pissed about it. But the the thing that really made it okay for me was um number one, she was not in her right state of mind when she said it, right? Which is not an excuse, but it’s a reality of what happened there. It’s a fact. And number two, the I I was not on good ground with Shannon until she hit that house and then it gave her perspective. And then she gen from that moment, I’m telling you, she was a completely different person towards me, a person who came in with empathy, a person who came in with perspective. She found personal growth from that, you know, mistake that she made. And she wholeheartedly apologized and felt total remorse, you know. I mean, I have caught some of the interviews and the things and I mean, I haven’t really seen any of that from Katie, you know. I haven’t seen any accountability or her acknowledging that she’s a part of this problem unless I missed it, you know. I’m not really wa I’m not really watching all the guys, but sometimes I see the clips on Instagram, you know, and so I just think it’s still like feels like defense mode. I see. And so I don’t know, you know, I don’t know. The second that people really genuinely lay down for me, I am very empathetic and I do I guess. Yeah, I guess it would feel because of course you guys have a reunion coming up too. Like how she would navigate that for you ladies to kind of I guess that would be that would be a really big Could that be like a Hail Mary pass for her to do something or say something that could maybe I mean that’s really that poll is in her court, right? Like she has to decide for herself whether she wants to go in it guns blazing or she wants to go in it accepting that maybe she’s a part of this problem and she would like to still exist here. That’s really not for us to determine like I you know right I would love to get your take on the gallery shoot where she allegedly recorded Shannon or I guess not so allegedly because she admitted to it but it was an audio not a video at first she did it was a little confusing here. What do you remember from that day? Was it as bad as I guess Katie thought it was to record it and send it to Matt Alexa Jen? I mean I think that the Yeah, death amnesia will get you too. I know. I know. It’s selective. Selective. Um, yeah. I Well, this is the thing. I think it’s never bad enough to record anyone. It would never be my instinct. And I think the fact that that’s her instinct is what the problem is. When your instinct is record problem, it’s just as simple as that, right? With that said, I mean, I didn’t hear it, but I’m quite certain that Shannon probably was losing. We was already She also was having like the worst year of her life. I’m not justifying it. You should never be unprofessional. But like I don’t think it’s about the that I think it’s about that why people feel insec unsafe around Katie or whatever it is like why they’re nervous about that is because the instinct is I never thought of it that way but that’s and then the instinct is you know. Yeah. It’s like oh this is let me get that and then what are you going to do with it? I’m going to sit I’m going to play for your arch nemesis. Yes. even just telling her about it to our arch because she’s like I because now she want Yeah. She’s like now I want to say I didn’t play it which obviously Alexis is saying she did play it but the problem is like okay even if you didn’t play it instinct is record instinct is go tell arch nemesis. Yeah. I’m not like come be my best friend girlfriend you know like what could happen that Yeah. Yeah. It just feels it feels icky. It feels violating. And I I encouraged Katie, you know, she had a point to make and I did encourage her during that time, speak your point. Say if that’s your perspective, if your perspective was, I was having a phone call and I thought it was rude and this was my first time here, then that’s the right thing to do. Go don’t record it. Go into the next day of filming and tell Shannon. Tell Shannon what a better trajectory. Yes. Yes. And I would often encourage her to to do that, but I just think her instinct is is different than what the show really calls for. And what do you make of Jen kind of I feel Jen is in the middle where she’s a fun time, but I’m like what I’m like I need her to start having a diary. I know. Jen, there’s a lot of times annoying. Yeah, she’s sitting with Katie. Oh my god. When you play this to me and then when Heather’s like she played it, she’s like No, I didn’t. I don’t even think I was there. Yeah. So yoga studio. Does that happen? Are we seeing more of that? Does she kind of get because I know a lie detector test comes up. Does she get held to the fire about that too where she has to kind of like We know you remember Jen. What is happening? You know what? I I I feel like we maybe didn’t ask Jen the right questions. But but now that you say that, that was a missed opportunity. A missed opportunity. But I do think that um I I genuinely think this is a big growth year for Jen, too. I think that I what I do understand about Jen is she was kind of drowning in her life a bit, right? And I know what that feels like to be drowning in my life. And honestly, a lot of when that’s going on, you might even have been literally sitting there conversations, the entire conversations that you you don’t register. Now, I don’t know if I I mean, I still would register like a recording of Shannon losing her bananas on Alexis, whatever. But it is what it is, right? What I can say is I don’t I really don’t know Jen to be a liar. I think that Jen was told about it. She thinks actually I just was with Jen. Okay. And she said that she thinks that that was actually there was a separate lunch or something. There was another lunch where those girls got together and she wasn’t there and she believes that it might have been played there or she said it was definitely discussed on the way. But she says she might have played it for her another time because she swears and maintains that she never heard it like physically heard it. I see. Okay. But she certainly was told about it. And I’m like, this is where, you know, I start to get a little upset with Jen because I’m like, you know, she also was telling you other things that were about some of us and you weren’t I, you know, I never been nothing but a good friend to you, so I don’t understand why you were sharing those. Yeah. So, that was kind of a bummer. But, and then that’s also good, too. You cuz like you’re like helping her out. You’re sharing with her immediately like, “Hey, Tam’s showing photos of you TBTs.” Yeah. You’re always sharing information. Oversharer. I should be less honest. Let’s be truthful, right? But yeah, so I I do think that that’s but that’s why it’s interesting, right? Because I have a real relationship with Jen and that actually is something that really does bum me out and it’s something that like I will have to address with her and hopefully y’all get to watch it. Do you feel like your friendship with Jen has strengthened since she has decided to no longer be friends with Katie? Does that make you feel like you’re in a safer space with Jen? Yeah. I mean, I guess I I to be honest though, my relationship I try to really take relationships person by person. Yeah. Like even that’s why like with Emily obviously like I’m so close with Emily, but I never try to like prevent her from being except when I did get a little a little upset when she’s being too close to Tamara. But that didn’t feel good. Bestie, I just had to check her real quick. But but no, I mean like I I do I don’t think that I wasn’t I think that that was more Jen kind of like I think she was kind of putting her the distance there and I maybe it does create more space for us to move towards each other. I can say that but I don’t like to blame other people for like a lack of effort on like my part and Jen’s part, you know, right? I don’t really think that’s fair. Yeah. Well, well, we will see. I mean, and we will especially see the end of this season cuz everyone is saying this finale. Oh, it’s crazy. Oh, yeah. Like never before in housewives history is what the girls are saying. And that it’s really dark and confusing and I mean we probably just should have ended a day earlier. No. Okay. I’m just kidding. No, but I mean yeah, it it took a very unfortunate unfortunate last minute detour, I would say. And I don’t think it it’s something that anybody’s super comfortable with, but it is what it is. Was it a surprising person who took the detour or no? I mean, I don’t know if I’m shocked by anything anymore, but um yeah. I mean, yeah. And honestly, there’s still, this is what I can say about it is I’m still confused and I’m still unsure of where I sit with the issue with all of this. Yeah. I don’t want to just jump I don’t want to jump on bandwagons. I don’t want to, you know, I don’t I don’t think that you should just be like on a dog pile unless it’s really warranted, you know, and so I I don’t know. I don’t know where I sit with it. I don’t know what’s real, what’s not real. I don’t know what the truth is, what’s not the truth. I can tell you it all comes to a head because there’s especially this year, you know, these women come back on this cast and there’s a lot of history there. I’ve spent a lot of this season just trying to figure out what was going on. Like I felt like all of a sudden I was new again. I was like, “This is a lot.” Ladies, talk about Jen needs to keep a diary and Gretchen maybe needs to read her diary less. Yes, we could just do that. Yes, we could just Yes. On a scale of like one to Monica Garcia on Salt Lake City Housewives, like how does how would you rank the finale of Orange County? So, what’s interesting is I kind of feel like we have two finales. So, I feel like Monica Garcia of it all is like midseason and then the ending is I just don’t even know. I don’t even know. Well, that’s a okay. Great place to end. We’re all so confused. We also haven’t seen it, you know. You don’t know what So, that’s the thing, too, is it’s really hard to sit here and say, “Oh, you’re going to be It’s” It’s like I I lived it. I know like what happened, but I haven’t seen it to know how you don’t know what we’ll see and what everybody else is saying about, right? I don’t know what exactly. So, I don’t I don’t know. I I I’ll tell you if I walked away this year feeling icky. Okay. I didn’t like it. And I would like to see us at the reunion make it better. That’s what I can tell you. Hoping for that and that that better last Bravo. Yeah. Oh my god. I know. What luck, right? I mean, that’s awful. Yeah. You guys end right in time for Let’s send us all back down. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. Well, Gina, thank you for sitting down here and talking to us. We love you. Thank you. Love you guys. Check out citywinery.com to purchase your tickets to the virtual reality awards on September 17th. Also, follow us at virtual reality on Instagram and pageix.com for updates. You don’t want to miss this one.

“Real Housewives of Orange County” star Gina Kirschenheiter stopped by the Page Six studio to chat with “Virtual Reali-Tea” co-hosts Danny Murphy and Evan Real about all the drama playing out in Season 19 of the Bravo hit. Gina weighed in on the Katie Ginella of it all, asserting that the cast feels “unsafe” after it was revealed that the latter secretly recorded Shannon Beador during a cast photo shoot. Plus, the real estate agent shed new light on her evolving dynamic with Heather Dubrow and shared her take on Tamra Judge’s brief “exit” from the show. Check out the full unedited interview!

“The Real Housewives of Orange County” airs Thursdays at 8 p.m. ET on Bravo with new episodes available to stream the next day on Peacock.

Read more at https://pagesix.com/video/rhoc-star-gina-kirschenheiter-weighs-in-on-katie-ginella-drama-and-more-with-virtual-reali-tea/

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