Is This How The Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni Case Will END!? Lawyer Reacts

Is This How The Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni Case Will END!? Lawyer Reacts

Could this case actually get thrown out before trial? Will they win appeals? What’s actually going to happen in this Baldoni versus Lively case? We got Ron Zambrano here to break it down. Welcome to Popcorn Planet. I Andy Signor. Always grateful to have the wonderful Ron Zambrano back. How you doing, Ron? I’m doing good, Andy. How are you? So good. I’m so gladful here. I while we had you for a few extra minutes, I I wanted to sort of pick your brain on like what are the paths we potentially see actually happening now that things are coming in, now that we had the summary judgment, it does seem like there are some paths that Wayfair has presented to the judge that literally could have them take, you know, to sort of just end this. It really feels like some offramps if you will that really would sort of dismiss the whole case without even having to touch the harassment claims which seem to be the I feel like the issue why this has gone so far from your perspective based on sort of what we’ve read so far on that that that motion which I know we’re waiting for Blake’s response to come unless there’s some big smoking gun or something else. I guess let’s start here. How likely are you feeling that a dismissal could actually happen before trial? Um, I’ll give it percentages. I would say 6040 7040. Some or all the claims will be dismissed. I think the motion uh was not just well written, but it brings up some good points with regards to the two areas of law that are being attacked or that Lively is trying to bring up. One is the smear campaign, right? Uh affecting her business, her ability to do her work later in the future. There’s a lot of evidence that what has happened to her in that respect. No one’s saying she’s not suffering, but a lot of people say it has nothing to do with the lawsuit. It has nothing to do with Baldoni. Has a lot to do with Blake B. Blake. And the other thing is the underlying harassment claims. And a lot of evidence that came up that was in this motion were like, we talked to her. This is what she’s saying was harassment. The law says that doesn’t reach that level. And I think it’s a very good argument. So the judge may again may or may not give her the rub of the green because technically the judge is supposed to what’s called look at the evidence in the like most favorable to lively in ruling this. Um but even then you know I I’ve had cases where I thought I would not lose a motion for summary judgement um that were attacked on my my claims and they are. And as pissed off as you are, the judges do try to do the right thing. You know, 99% of the time, federal judges more so in my my uh experience, although they’re a little bit more conservative. Um I think some I here’s here’s a better analysis. There’s 90% chance one individual claims will be dismissed and the case will move forward in some iteration. Some whittle down Yeah. whittle down literation, I give it a 6040 chance that the entire case gets kicked out. Um, as of right now, so and if that happens, uh, so if the whole whole case gets kicked out, then the, uh, lively parties can appeal. If it doesn’t get kicked out, then uh, and something survives, there has to be a final judgment before they can appeal the parts that they didn’t like that were kicked out. And also this would affect this would also affect any ability to u well it would damage the underlying fee motion for the cross complaint. So everything’s connected. Well that’s so that’s where I’m getting like it sounds like some of this could be thrown out if no new information is brought to the table based on what we know uh you know without it might be even at time of taping this. We we taped this a little earlier. Let’s just say you know we’re going off of the motion uh summary judgement dropped. Nothing new has really come in. No smoking gun has come in. It seems like something’s going to get dismissed. Something potentially could. And I guess at that point, even if there’s a few left, I guess before I even go to appeal, what are the odds you think at this point for either side to settle? As a lawyer, looking at this, knowing now how each side’s sort of fairing, do you think it’s in best interest of either side to settle? Or do you think we’d even want to at this far along, you know, space in the process? I don’t think I don’t think either party will want to settle. They’re just too far along. There’s too much invested. I I think I think I mean Andy, the fact that you are being a target for your you know that that tells you the amount of uh eye, right? Like the amount of like this is coming from a deep place of annoyance that they’re just going to be like, “Oh, you know what? Let’s resolve. We’re going to make a good decision. stop paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in attorney’s fees and stop the bleeding. I just I don’t I I don’t see that coming. Like unless like a mediator comes in from like heaven, like I just don’t see it coming. There’s the egos are too too well in uh they’re just too dug in, right? Like once they started annoying you, I I started like there never I mean and it wasn’t just me to be fair like so many they’re still at me. Yes, I’m the last man saying, but all the creators, it was wild. It’s It’s true. It was kind of a red flag of, “Oh, this is this is serious frustration, serious eye.” Uh, all right. So, settlement, you think that’s off the table, even with Justin, I would imagine he spent so much money. What’s the point? Why not? Why would he have done it earlier? It seems like neither side is going to get what they want in a settlement. So, okay, that’s off the table. So, let’s say some get dismissed. What’s the appeal process like? How likely is then it still likely to go to trial? uh as planned for next February, is it? Uh I I have a I I don’t think it’s going to go to trial February. One, the shutdown caused a big backlog um in the federal courts because the federal judiciary is funded. Everybody that works in my line of business got notices from all district courts that they are not doing civil cases until they get funded again. So, there was a 40-day delay in processing civil uh moving civil things along. So, I don’t think they’re going to be ready. The judge is going to have time. Like, there’s like sorry I’m backed up 40 days. You’re not I’m not going to see you in Feb. This is what can happen a lot. This happens a lot in federal courts. It’s annoying. It’s going to annoy you. It’s going to annoy the parties more. They could uh lively side can file everything with a summary judgement. They can file everything with regards to whatever is left. And we’re we’re getting close to like what can be done because discovery is over, right? There’s no more fights in discovery. The judge can go, “Thank you very much. I will call you. You, you know, don’t call me. I’ll call you. I’m vacating all the dates. We’re waiting until I rule on the summary judge option.” And we can just wait four months, maybe a year before the judge decides to rule on. That is a possibility because it happens a lot in federal court. Here in California, there are there’s an eastern district where I’m still waiting 18 months later for a ruling on a motion for summary judge. That can happen here. and the judge doesn’t care about anybody except for his case lo. So the I think the chances are really low the trial actually goes in February just be more because of the practicality of they he had to stop doing civil work un except accepting complaints for 40 days you know now the holidays are coming in and like he’s got trials and he’s doing criminal hearings like this I don’t think it’s happening but let’s suppose it does happen he rules on the semi- judgement motion on time it might be March also just people are going to correct me it’s February or March but still that time period is still coming up so keep going yeah I I just don’t I just don’t think he’ll have the time. I don’t I just don’t think he’ll have the time. But let’s suppose he does. So, he doesn’t kick out the the M uh the he doesn’t grant the MSJ, the motion for summary judgement. We go in March. Whoever loses is appealing. They have uh 30 days from from judgment to appeal. Then that process will take another year, maybe two years, depending on how many extensions there are and how how that process moves in the second circuit. Yeah, they’re in the second circuit. So you could be looking between like no resolution until 2027, maybe 2028. So and and and and what if the court of appeal reverses something, right? Then you have to come back. Then you come back. You know, we we hear stories all the time. This hasn’t happened to me, although it’s happening on one of um on the list case I have. we file they filed an appeal on a on on something and it’s going to be a year and we won’t have probably a decision till next summer. So we’re looking at almost two years of just it’s sitting in a table. So and if and then we have to go back. So this it just it creates this light. So if nobody settles this really could be just a war of attrition. Appellet attorneys now get paid. It can go on till 2027 maybe 2028 unless they And when you say that, I almost feel like that’s an advantage towards Blake and Ryan, is it not? Because they’re clearly like, “Yeah, we’ll just keep paying it to to just to annoy all you because we hate all you guys so much.” It almost feels like the long game like that is almost a win to blind. It might be, I’m presuming based on their their anger. They’re so freaking angry. Uh, do you think that’s just a way for them to maybe try to get the win of we’re just going to drain you as long as we can? It could be, but I do think Lively’s career has taken a real hit. uh you know, stuff’s been popping up that would never have popped up, at least at the exposure levels that we’ve seen, but for this lawsuit and there has to be a sobering conversation like listen, we took a swing. They, you know, everybody got punches in, but like what’s the endgame here, right? Like is is a win just bleeding money and spending millions of dollars to Beldon? Like that’s not no disrespect to Beldoni, but like you know Baldon doesn’t have millions and millions of dollar. Like what’s the ending with Sarowitz’s money clearly? But I mean it’s just funny you say that as you think you really think there’s someone in that law office who has the the morality or the ability to stop these two. It seems like they would have done it months ago if they could have pulled that off. No. And I I totally agree with you. I think there are at least one maybe two very long letters giving assessments on winning and and and costs of of winning and cost of losing and then recommending resolution. I I think there are letters that exist out there from Well, not to interrupt, but it’s like honest lawyer answer. I’m I’m curious like you’re in this case, you’re making a fortune, you don’t know how it’s going to go, you’re doing your best, but you’re starting to be like, “Guys, you look awful. This is not helping.” Do you get that real with the clients? Like, do you think someone in her camp has told Ryan and Blake, “Guys, this is bad.” Obviously, we’re not going to say that publicly, but do you think they’re getting those come to Jesus moments? Um, they’re attempting to. Absolutely. Because because a good attorney tells truth to power. Uh, you tell truth to the client, even if it’s something the client doesn’t want to hear. You got to tell them something. Like, I’ve told clients like, “I’m not taking you to a jury trial because you are not a likable person. You’re just not a likable person. Jury’s not going to like you.” And and I can’t be the first person to tell you you’re not likable. You have to tell them because what happens in the alternative, they lose in trial and they learn later it’s because of whatever and then they blame you. They’re going to blame you no matter what. And so you got to put this stuff in writing like these are the risks. This is the exposure. Uh this is what it’s going to cost you. Why don’t you not spend this much spend be interested in spending this much? Oh, you have to you have to you tell and the lawyers do send those letters to cover themselves in case it comes out later in Melb whatever. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Because they could be like, “Oh, you overcharged us and you should never charge this. We’re not paying that bill.” And I’m like, “No, letter. Look, I told you not to spend this money. I told you to resolve at this point, at this point. At this point, at this point, at this point.” Absolutely. Especially when you have people like Ryan Reynolds, who does have a large amount of money. I’m not going to say it’s it’s it’s an infinite amount of money, but he has a lot of money. And if he wants to get pissed enough and and he does lose, he’ll probably think about it suing his attorneys going like, “They did a bad job.” He’ll think about it and the attorney is going to be like, “I hope I have letters to both Lively and and Ryan going, “This is my recommendation. Yeah, sure you might win, but really you should spend half of that just to get rid of it.” No, not here. Okay. Four months later, I sent another letter saying, “Now we’re at this position. These are our chances. Maybe we should make a phone call, see how interested they are.” You know, stuff like that. Like I’m sure someone recommended to them like Well, just the irony as you say that. Like especially in this case, learning about what they’re suing over and what Justin Wayfair didn’t do, you would think these lawyers would not want to make any similar mistakes against such a latigious and insecure or thin skinned clientele who has money and power. Yeah. I mean, they’re not afraid to spend money on attorneys, right? Uh it’s kind of like when you do you really want to pick up a fight with someone like Trump, right? Like he he’ll sue you back no matter what it is. It could be meritorious or not. You’re just you’re going to get sued. Do you want that? And then what’s the end again? What is the endg game like? Does if if Lively wants to be put back in a light that isn’t negative in Hollywood to be called on to do really serious work. What is your endgame, sir? You’re the lawyer in this case. What would you advise? I would, again, I think I’ve said this before. I would tell uh I would tell uh Lively, reach out to Beldon. You guys, we have to figure out a way for both of you to to not to to both compromise and not save and also save face and move on. It’s either do another movie, do a sequel, you know, where there is maybe do a sequel where you have a documentary crew, you know, like, you know, because everybody’s going to watch that 100%. And they’d make so much money off the sequel. They’d make money off the sequel and the documentary, right? They’d make money off both. And then, you know, we everybody shares the credit, everybody shares the the PGA thing, everybody shares this, and then D comes off such better light than what she is now. Baldon can springboard that off, you know, and be like, you know, we’re fine. Shake hands, agree to disagree for the greater good of the cause, of the story. It seems so I’ve said that exactly since day one. How likely do you think that is to happen right now? Nothing. There’s there’s too there’s too strong. She needs to lose a lot before she’d even consider it, I imagine. Well, what happens is that when you lose a lot, you start blaming others, right? What needs to happen is be like, she has to take ownership for what’s happening to the extent some of it really is intellectually honest standpoint be like, you know what, some of this is my fault, right? Like maybe I shouldn’t have put him in the basement, you know? Maybe maybe that was a bad I should have promoted a booze during a DV movie. Yeah, 100%. Mhm. Like, you know, she has to be open to that before she could take this step that that you and I are talking about because if not, she’s like, “Well, oh, I’m losing. It’s the judge’s fault. I’m losing. It’s it’s Andy’s fault.” You know, it’s everyone else’s fault, but mine, if that’s her view, she she’s never going to sell. Such true words, Bronze Abr, always appreciate you making the time, guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Uh, make sure West Coast Trial Lawyers out LA, appreciate you as always, sir. Make sure you guys hit that subscribe button. What do you think? Are we on to something? How likely is it? Hit that subscribe, hit the bell, hit the like. Let us know in the comments what you think. Is there any version of that happening in any reality? I want to hear your thoughts. Uh, thank you guys so much for watching. Stay tuned. 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