‘A husband expects a yes’: how wife schools are shaping submissive Christian women

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  1. BouldersRoll on

    Wake me up when we have schools that teach women to be more assertive and adversarial.

  2. lilliesofthevalley44 on

    Every day I see something that is just a BIT too reminiscent of The Handmaids Tale

  3. MarieOMaryln on

    Absolutely fucking not. Regression for women is not cute nor is it a choice, let’s be fucking honest about the ones who “want” this and what it means for mainstream growth.

  4. potatodog247 on

    But if those men read the sentences after the “women submit to your husbands” there’s the whole section about husbands need to love and honor their wives the way Jesus loved the church and gave himself up for it. That whole passage is longer than the wife part… but you know, cherry picking men.

  5. “I think it would be better for your entire family to get the black plague and die … than for you to continue treating your husband like a toddler by reminding him to wash his hands.” I…can’t.

    More seriously, it feels to me like this greatly aligns with an idea I see really everywhere tbh, which is… rather than finding a partner that naturally fits who you are and what you need, if you just work on yourself enough, twist yourself into enough knots, be better, more sane, more kind, more patient, more understanding, blah blah…. you will *create* the partner you want. There is nothing wrong with self-improvement. Hell, I’ve done quite a bit of it. But IMO the ultimate goal of self-improvement is to get to a place where you can make better decisions about what’s healthiest for you, not to manipulate the world around you to be something else.

    Also: “Fox News host Lara Trump [touted](https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392560219112) a poll that found 47% of gen Z women were interested in being trad wives.” I do not believe this.

    (edited because reddit was being weird)

  6. ResponsibleRaise9683 on

    Being submissive sounds so fucking boring. No wonder they need to brainwash women into it. No thoughts, no ambitions, no see the world, just follow some dude around like a lapdog. Ew

  7. Aside from anything else, asking somebody else for permission over every aspect of your life sounds like a great way to build mutual resentment

  8. GiraffePolka on

    This shit is so sick and disturbing. I feel so sorry for the messed up children that will result from these kind of marriages.

  9. TortillaWallace on

    A take I’m seeing get louder but still more quiet than others is… men don’t want these women.

    “Traditional” men want submission, sure. But they don’t want the women to come out fully formed for them. They want a woman who seems free and independent. It’s not domination if there’s no resistance.

  10. RomanPotato8 on

    What the fuck did I just read? Maybe I’m a type A person, maybe it’s because I grew up (I’m 33 now) with my parents both working FT and BOTH sharing responsibilities: Like I vividly remember my dad putting on an apron on Saturday morning and dusting around the house and I also vividly remember my mum grabbing the tool box to fix smt.

    There is no world in my view where “*wives must subtly guide their husbands into their God-given “leadership role”* because it’s about partnership in a relationship, about pulling each other up.

    What in the ass-backwards is this shit and who are these women wanting to go back to the stone age?

  11. sultrysiren89 on

    I’ve read enough to stop scrolling halfway through. As a woman of faith, this is disgusting, and unbiblical. This completely demeans the autonomy God created for women to have. Wife School? What a degrading, patriarchal, nonsensical, black and white mentality. They’re missing the part where God created mutual submission. Most of the men who attend church are performers and they know Christian women take their submissive roles seriously, so that’s who they prefer marrying. It’s not about “God’s will”, it’s about control. I’ve seen too much of it. What’s wrong with modern feminism? The feminism that fought for equal rights, for a voice so they could have belittling institutions such as, “Wife School,” and a bank account? These women benefit off of feminism daily and they continue to shit on us for choosing a lifestyle that doesn’t endanger or leave us destitute. How do these women not have the discernment to see they’re being indoctrinated, programmed, and grifted?

  12. Responsible_Rhubarb1 on

    Fuuuuuck that. If my husband ever expected me to be a submissive wife…

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  13. pumpkinspruce on

    Mix a dash of financial reasons and this type of nonsense, and it’s easy to see why young women don’t want marriage or children these days.

  14. My friend didn’t go to wife school, but she learned about being a Christian wife through church and her pastor. She got pregnant back to back. When she told me she was pregnant again, I asked her if she was excited about it because her first pregnancy was a nightmare and I told her if she’s not ready for it, it would be understandable if she didn’t keep it. But all she said was that the Bible said she can’t have an abortion. Her own health did not matter. All that mattered was what the Bible said.

    What’s worse is that her husband tried to convince her to homeschool their kids when they’re ready for school. Mind you, my friend has a PHD and never got a chance to flex her degree because of her pregnancy.

    I just feel bad for these women. I try to be supportive of everyone’s beliefs, but such beliefs is leading women to live a life of misery.

  15. Otherwise_Ad233 on

    “Who falls for this?” Women who are raised to believe they’re unworthy of respect and are desperate for it thinking it comes from submission, being a “good girl” and a man’s favor.

    And even in 2026 cultures around the world still encourage this.

  16. explodedemailstorage on

    I couldn’t even get through the article. It’s all just so stupid. I would just rather my womb rot than buy into any of this shit. 

  17. maybeiwasright on

    Not a very helpful comment, but I can’t believe people on Twitter were unironically saying that POPSTARS were the ones setting women back 50 years because of a lewd album cover or concert or whatever when serious regression on a systemic and institutional level like this has been taking root.

  18. Foreign-Fig-7363 on

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    As a product of Christian schools for 11 years, no way is this a good idea

  19. _skank_hunt42 on

    I was raised with all the “wives submit to your husbands” cult crap. Worked really hard to get out of that life. Headlines like this make me feel sick.

  20. _TalkingIsHard_ on

    Absofuckinglutely not. This shit is why SA is so prevalent in religious communities, especially high control religions (IBLP, LDS). They are teaching girls from a very young age not to question elders, especially males, not to say no, and to “pray and obey”. And when you add in the toxicity of purity culture, where instead of consent, girls are taught to be “joyfully available” and that their worth is tied to how pure/pious they are, SA often goes unreported.

  21. Top-Caregiver-6266 on

    I’m all for being loving and appreciative towards your partner every day. But spoiler alert: being a submissive doormat won’t make someone love and cherish you if they don’t already. In fact, it seems to breed contempt.

  22. innocentsalad on

    Christian men won’t marry them so what’s the point? They want to cage and break a bird not buy one at the store pre-broken.

  23. We will spend decades unraveling the damage the Heritage Foundation has done to society. A cult of rich religious extremists bent on playing Illuminati trying their level best to fuck up an entire generation. That’s where shit like this originates.

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