‘RHOC’ recap: ‘Virtual Reali-Tea’ talks Katie Ginella’s ‘exit’ after explosive lie detector test

    I don’t remember exactly how you came up, but she said that you guys had gone to dinner and at the dinner she was like, “Did you know at that naked wasted night that Gretchen had to go to the hospital after and she was drugged virtual reality. Hi, I’m Danny Murphy. And I’m Evan Real.” And what should we strap up for a lie detector test right now? Maybe we should. I feel left out. I know. Oh, I feel Well, actually, I’m glad I’m not getting a lie detector test by that woman. Are you currently keeping any secrets? No. What is half of 10 x 5? Five? Oh, half of 10 x 5. Wait, she her vibes were off. I did not like her energy. You know how some of the ladies ran out during the voodoo doll making? I would have ran out once I saw her. Yeah. Do you know what? First of all, it was the bangs. The bangs. The bangs were a no for me, but also the attitude was a little bit rancid. You really failed this one. You failed those very badly. It’s a yes or no. Failed miserably. No. Like you were off the charts a failure. Did you tell Kiki that said she was drugged and hospitalized? No. No. You failed it. Did you play the recording of Shannon for Alexis? No. No. You failed that one. It was giving UKL Arts. Oh. And I’m glad like I guess like she couldn’t get Hamlet so she got this. And I’m not saying neither here nor there because she just kept on trying to have a moment. Yeah. Didn’t have a moment for me. really wanted that moment. Yeah, but it’s funny. All of the ladies, like maybe on another franchise they would have engaged with her, but they were kind of like, “Okay, well, I know.” Okay, so let’s break it down. The lie detector test, it came towards the end of the episode after everyone had to anonymously write their questions at Emily’s request. They were having a celebration for Persian New Year. I don’t know if it’s customary for Persian New Year celebrations to have a lie detector test to have a lie detector test or have your friends all write shady questions about each other. But I guess this is how Emily celebrates the Persian New Year. And once they got in there, some of the questions were I mean expected like did Heather call the paparazzi? That was one that she apparently failed according to this woman with the bangs. And then there were a lot of questions for Katie obviously. Yeah. For Katie and Gretchen. Katie and Gretchen. Gretchen passed with flying colors. Katie failed miserably, but I think I really think I don’t want to get conspiratorial here. I feel like it was a setup. Well, my thing is Gretchen’s ass on the lie detector test, did you go to the hospital? She said no. Then we cut to the car footage of her telling Tamara and Shannon, I went to the hospital. The next day, yes, I went to the hospital. I was so sick. Yes. And then Tamron and Shannon kind of looking at each other like wait what is going on here? So that’s what’s confusing me because then I’m like the lie detector test and Gretchen are playing themselves but I don’t think they realize that they are being played. Thank God for the flashback because I think it’s important to remind the audience that Gretchen did lie. She has told several different versions of this story to her castmates in confessionals to other castmates and it’s not adding up. And I’m glad that Tamara in the confessional and Shannon too and Shannon Tamara did the research and was like, “Hey, known li people who are good at lying can pass polygraphs with flying colors like Gretchen did.” So she there is actual evidence of her lying. And that’s frustrating to me. And also what was frustrating to me is so many of the women came down on Katie when it was revealed that she failed her polygraph test after they had failed certain questions in their own polygraph test. Like we can’t trust you. Everything you say is a lie. But yet, oh no, it couldn’t be true that I lied about this because I told the truth. It wasn’t adding up. It wasn’t making sense. So, what is it? Is the polygraph factual? And is Jennifer to marry Ryan? Did Heather call the paparazzi? Exactly. All these things. It’s just not making sense. And also, Gretchen, you never leaked anything about Tamara Judge in 15 plus years, right? I mean, who knows? But the thing is, we do know that she told different versions of the story about going to the hospital after naked wasty. And the one thing cuz I do feel I’m like I do feel like she told um Katie that I also do feel Katie, you probably had a fun happy hour with Kiki Mon’nique and had a gab session, right? And I think dancing around that because Kiki had her sit down with Gretchen and Gina and was like, “Yeah, I talked to Kiki. I talked to Katie. I’m sure Katie and Kiki gabbed because that also isn’t adding up. I in this situation I have a lot of empathy for Katie, but Katie obviously I mean it the the we’re connecting the dots. The information was shared with Kiki, but she has so far assertively claimed no, I did not tell that to Kiki. But it’s it’s fine. Like if if that is what Gretchen said because that that is what is being said is that Gretchen did say this at the dinner with Jen and Ryan and everything and everyone heard it and we’re doubling down on that. I think that it’s time to also be transparent about the fact that maybe she did share this because I feel I would I if Katie was like like hand to God Gretchen told me, Jen, Ryan, Matt, Slate that at a dinner few weeks later I got brunch with Kiki because you know like we have a rapport online. Yeah. And I brought it up to her and I like talking as friends cuz also it’s a thing where it’s like it’s not like she went to like TMZ to sit down for an interview. It’s like she was having like a lunch I’m assuming or something like that. Right. If she just would have owned the fact that she maybe allegedly said this to Kiki and explain exactly what you said. I was just having brunch with a friend. It got a little gossipy. It got a little bit juicy. I didn’t think Kiki would share that information with anyone. Mhm. My bad. That’s right. Exactly. Just own it. But she should have I I think it would have made the situation easier for her to then explain Gretchen absolutely did say this. And I don’t Well, obviously Shannon’s not very team Katie here. I think Tamara’s I don’t know how she feels about Katie in this moment, but I do wish that they would have said in the moment rather just in their confessionals, Gretchen did tell us this. Gretchen did lie. I wonder what the ladies watching back seeing that moment going like, “Huh?” Right. I wonder how Emily feels about that. I wonder how Gina feels about that because Gina is very much aligning herself team Gretchers. And I just don’t know if that’s the best place to be. And I wonder too, Gina, seeing the clip of the flashback of Katie talking about the Asian designer comment. Yeah, cuz Katie was saying it felt like a dig to me. Mhm. And Gina’s like, “You painted me out to be racist.” Katie is saying what it felt like for her. Right. Exactly. I know. I do think that Gina has hopefully had some reflections on that moment. We talked to her two and a half weeks ago and I don’t know if but we didn’t but we didn’t know about this situation. So maybe if we could have unpacked it with her but I the the energy that Gina was displaying was a little bit confusing. I was following her logic. She did say that the reason why she maybe said it in a shady way cuz she was the biggest advocate for Asian designers because she didn’t like Katie at the time. Yeah. Uh but I don’t think that she should have made a dig that was racially charged. And I think Katie was explaining that in her confessional that she grew up in a predominantly white community and that she knows or and sees that some sometimes white people don’t understand or see how they have racially. And also like ask Katie what she’s pairing the balon dress with cuz Yeah. You don’t know. What about the earrings? What are the shoes? Exactly. Exactly. And also I’m like Katie style is usually 10 out of 10. Yeah. She looks great. Yeah. her two stylists who we who we know and love. They’re they when they come in here, they’re pretty fun. They’re a great duo and they do make Katie look amazing all the time. I don’t know. I just I it’s just such a tricky situation. Also, Jen Pantry, what? Pedantry. Pante. Panti. Jen Panti. Jen Panti. Wow. Um her saying after a polygraph test being, “Wow, now I really don’t know if I can trust Katie at all.” it. A polygraph test is a reason you can’t trust someone you’re friends with. And also that polygraph test said you are nervous about marrying Ryan. So honey, you got to go down the aisle in your bikini. Do you still not trust yourself or did you forget something from 5 minutes ago? Yeah. I don’t know what’s happened 10 times 5. I think I I I think this polygraph woman was a little bit shy. And let’s not forget that Emily, who facilitated the polygraph, hates Katie with a burning passion. Yes. So I just and also all the I’m not saying that Katie has told the the truth in all ways. I actually I think she is lying about the Kiki stuff and that’s okay that it’s fine. I I I It’s like the truth about the She’s telling the truth about the Gretchen thing but the lie about the Katie the Kiki thing. Exactly. But I do think that this was a big setup for her cuz then I’m like why don’t we have uh Emily Have you ever ripped Heather Dubo apart to Gina over cocktails? Yeah. I mean, look, I we’ll have to do another polygraph. A polygraph part two. Part two. No, I actually never want to see a polygraph again. I know because it it did kind of take a minute. It took so long. It took a lot of so much of it was so boring. Yeah. Now, what we did find out is that Heather Dro really wants to be a real housewife of Beverly Hills. She a shorter commute. Would you rather be a housewife housewife of Beverly Hills? Yes. True. It’s closer. I live in Beverly Hills and I told them everyone’s going to be pissed and say, “You think you’re better than us? We don’t need to explain all the things. We don’t need to keep explaining cuz and also she’s like they’re going to designer stores. I’m sitting on a couch getting a polygraph test. Yeah. What the hell? And there’s a bowl of dead goldfish. Yeah. That was really sad. And the the producers, the editors kind of they kind of played Emily on that one because they did two shots of it and by the end the second shot I think all the goldfish were dead. I feel bad for the goldfish. Yeah. Is she feeding them? Like what’s happening? I don’t know. I think that they are just there for decoration, which isn’t I mean because what what was the intent? Were we going to foster the goldfish afterwards? Were you going to adopt the goldfish? Were you going to keep the goldfish? Goldfish are very low stake pets. They do. I feel like they do die easily and so you have to take extra care of them, especially when you’re using them as decorations. Mainly food. Food. Yeah. Sprinkling some things, you know, or making sure that the water is distilled because if you put them in just regular filtered water, they will die on site. So, I don’t know if the water was distilled, Emily. We’re not sure. And then maybe we could ask her on the next polygraph on the polygraph test. Think about the gold. Was the water distilled? That’s going to be next season cuz they’re all just taking down Katie this season. Next season if Katie’s gone, your goldfish died. Like what are we think? Like that’s what I’m also thinking. Like ladies, what’s going to happen? What are we going to do? You’re going to push Katie off and then you can’t then you’re going to actually have Yeah. What do you think of Jen very much siding with Gretchen and all of this and not with Katie? Because I think it’s a little weird because Jen and Gretchen’s friendship is on the newer side. Yeah. And I know that Katie and Jen just became friends last season during Katie’s first season. But they were really tight. They were thick as thieves. They talked all the time. I mean, despite everything that went on with Jen’s boyfriend, husband, fiance, whatever he is, Ryan, and the FBI, she decided to look past that and prioritize the friendship. So, I just I don’t know. This the switch up is a little jarring to me. She’s looking that nobody likes Katie, so I need to hop on another board for survival because what checks are coming in? And do you know what I mean? Wait, am I No, I mean and and now you said it wrong. And now you said it. Bikinis don’t pay for themselves for the aisle, right? The Jets to Vegas don’t Yeah. That is That’s true. That is true. I think there’s that. I don’t know what’s next for this group though because even Katie, she she jumps out of the confessional chair and said, “I don’t know if this is the last time these women are going to Did she Is she done? Is she I don’t know.” Cuz that’s where I’m like, “What? How would she possibly go back to a lunch with them now?” Yeah, I know. I feel I don’t know. I just I don’t like it. I feel icky. I know. I feel this episode made me feel really icky. Yeah, very icky. But also, maybe you’re like, Tamron, never quit again because we do need you. I love her so much. And I loved her red outfit and she just I loved her red outfit and I love how she’s just the best. She just walks in. She’s like, “What the what am I getting into?” Sure. Yeah. Just confronted. She’s down for anything. Yeah. And then who was it was like Shannon and Jen in a corner like I’m talk to her. She’s not trying to talk to you. Yeah. At all at all. She actually doesn’t care. She does like That’s like the That’s the thing about Tamara. She’s like, “I don’t give a shit.” Yeah. It’s It’s the magic of Tamara Judge. Magic Tam. We got no coming attraction for next week, but it’s going to be probably very interesting. Yeah. Very curious. We’ll see if Katie sticks around. See if Katie sticks around. We’ll see what other confessional outfits Gretch and Rossy rocks. I know. I wonder when those or nos. Yeah. I wonder when we’ll be done with that cupcake look, right? It’s kind of giving cupcake in a way with the headband and the pearls and the and the bows and the sleeves. It’s It’s a lot at once. It is in many ways a visual assault. It is. Yeah. I mean that I maybe that outfit she should go to the hospital and see, you know, check that out. Yeah. Check that out. Exactly. And don’t lie about it this time. Don’t lie about it. She’s like, I never wore that. I never wore that. Well, I don’t think honestly evidence doesn’t matter to her. She doesn’t care. It’s fine, actually. And that could be a blissful place to live in. Sure. You know. Yeah. When you don’t care about your own lies. Yeah. You’re just You’re just riding whatever you’re feeling in the moment. Vibing hide. That’s why her and Jenna linking up. Two girls just go on vibes. Yeah. Just vibing out. Vibing out. We see it. We watch it. Mhm. And we’ll watch it next week. Stick around.

    We’re recapping season 19, episode 8 of “The Real Housewives of Orange County” with our “Virtual Reali-Tea” co-hosts Danny Murphy and Evan Real. Kiki Monique sits down with Gina Kirschenheiter and Gretchen Rossi to spill on her chat with Katie Ginella. Emily Simpson invites a polygraph examiner to conduct lie detector tests on the ladies. Katie’s “failure” leads to an explosive reaction from the cast. Check out the full recap and more!

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    1. The way they treated Katie was awful, this is the second time these women are ganging up on a woman of colour on this show. Also – I think I see what Tamra says about Jen after she just left Katie hanging so she could fit in with the rest. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€

    2. Need to remove Tamra from the show. Emily needs to be called out. You invited Katie to your event, had her participate in your polygraph game, then kicked her out?!

      Overall, Iโ€™m so confused with Katie ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ she has zero credibility and Gretchen looks like a liar.

      This whole polygraph thing was BS. It was so OBVIOUS. ๐Ÿ˜‚

    3. So you must be the only two that Iโ€™ve heard say they just love Tamara. If she treated you two the way sheโ€™s treated the most of the cast you may feel like Jenn and Shannon

    4. Emily is a horrible person; she has made fun of Gretchen's looks and called Jenn so many horrible names. Is always attacking people's appearance and careers and judging due to the fact she is insecure and miserable. Go stick another burger in your purse your so quirky Emily, ugh fire her.

    5. Gina is racist, because after Katie had said that about Gina, it didnโ€™t take long and much for her, Gina, to add more racist remarks to the existing problem. It felt like Gina could not wait to express that hatred, and on top of that, to show how great she can be at it, also. So racist.

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