GASLIGHTING? Blake Lively Claims Justin Baldoni ERASED Evidence!?

    Oh my god, I am so exhausted by Blake Lively’s gaslighting. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Welcome to Popcorn Planet. I am Andy Signor. I’m here with It’s Kim. We’ve been live uh with our toxic positivity. We have get your shirts at our store uh along with our amazing uh the my favorite shirt yet. Subpoena this. It’s now available in the store in the new in the new uh store. So, check it out. Go to merch, click on new items, and uh you can support us fighting back against our subpoena. Uh we we talked a lot about that. You can go watch the full show on our website, popcornpl.com, where the shirts, everything else. Click sign up. You can always catch the replays over there at exclusive content. Um, but uh, a lot’s happening right now and it’s important that we go through this because I see the writing on the wall, Kim, and I’m I’m worried because Blake’s team is desperate. Blake’s team is absolutely desperate. Uh, and shout out to Little Girl attorney, uh, who said it best. Go watch her video. I don’t I don’t want to play it again on this, but you should all watch it, but to sum up a lot of what she said, because that Steve Sowitz audio was so bad for Blake. It was not what they thought it was going to be. um they’re desperate and they’re now throwing this out. They’re now asking for basically jury instructions to basically say because their wayfairer parties used signal which is an app like WhatsApp and and so on because they use this when it has a autodee function because of that and along with the iPhone voice memos when you send a voice memo after you play it disappears because of these autodelete features well they are then spoil this is called spoilage or spoilization right spoil spoilation. Sorry, it’s called spoilation, which basically means like they’re they’re lying. They’re they’re knowingly, maliciously uh deleting uh evidence. What was the word, Kim? More specifically? I’m I’m not sure. Like, did they do it intentionally, maliciously? Um but but the difficulty is when you have some of these apps that some of this stuff is is just going to happen, right? some of these apps, this is how they operate. And on top of that, there are multiple documents throughout this litigation that say that the the date that they were informed that they needed to preserve communication was December 20th of 2024. And there seems to be this dispute now about when that date actually is. So, it’s it’s the difficulty now of of being able to say to someone if they just used an app and there was an autodeion that apparently they’ve now done something illegal when they didn’t know that they were going to be going into litigation. It’s a really scary argument to make and maybe this is one of these situations where the law hasn’t fully caught up to our technology because that absolutely happens. But the way that it stands right now, it’s just it’s a very strange to me. It’s a strange argument to be making. And all the legal analysis I’ve seen is that this is this is not a good argument. Um, and I I I mean, we’ll see what happens. We’ll see the way that the judge interprets it. But the other thing with this document is it’s also asking for jury instruction. And we are very far away from trial at this point. We haven’t had summary judgement. We don’t know what, you know, claims are moving forward to trial. So to rule on a jury instruction when we don’t know whether or not that claim is going to trial, it seems a bit presumptuous and I don’t feel like it follows proper protocol at this point. That’s just my opinion. No, I’m not a lawyer, but to me it doesn’t make sense. As as little girl attorney said, yeah, 100%. and they want to basically say, “Well, your honor, we need to tell the jury that because of this auto deletion that that should infer that they had guilty messages that therefore we no longer have is what they’re trying to basically claim here.” And this is basically what’s happening in my hearing now as well. And I said more of it in the in the full show, but please guys, I know what I’m doing. I appreciate the comments. I appreciate the support. Please be patient. I don’t need the suggestions. I’m well aware of all your suggestions. You just got to trust the process and know we’re not dumb. So, please, please, I know, I know we’re on it and I’m confident and we’re going to get there. But in my hearing, this came up as well. They were like, “We want his his uh signal chat messages.” I don’t have signal chat messages, Kim. I never use Signal uh and especially not for these projects. Um and so this makes no sense. They’re basically saying, “Well, if they don’t have it, they must have deleted it.” That’s now going to be the excuse because they don’t have it because of the autodelete foot feature because they used voice memos or this. They must be hiding something, your honor. Therefore, they are guilty. And the press is already picking up. Dominic Patton didn’t do an an article about, you know, the audio not being what Blake promised. Notice how Deadline’s been very pro Blake, especially this author, very pro Blake and leaning towards that. These are the journalists, Kim, that are not out there for views. This is such horseshit. Blake’s, you know, team that sides with her. They’re the proper journalists. The ones who only post her stories are the proper journalists. TMZ, who knows I’m subpoenaed before I do, they’re proper journalists. But Popcorn Planet, apparently in Blake’s eyes, is a content farm only out to retaliate to the highest bidder. Absolutely defamatory. Anyway, I can Let’s Let’s continue. Uh just when you thought the retaliation claims against her, you know, blah blah blah, couldn’t get any more incendiary, lawyers for the actors may have dug up a bonafide digital smoking gun. Defendants have hid the ball at every turn of the discovery process, either failing to produce documents or improperly cloaking them in attorney client privilege, forcing no less than 12 discovery related motions to date against defendants and their aligned third parties uh of the much redacted sanctions. Yeah. Yeah. uh backed by a very similar filing the PR uh from the PR firm and and Jones works yada yada yada Lively’s team is essentially calling out Baldon and Wayfair Studios, Inner Circle and the likes of publicist Melissa Nathan, Jennifer Ael over deliberate use of the Signal app, voice memos and other software for their smear campaign she scheme against the actress, risking refuting a court order on evidence from months ago. The aim of the Baldoni execs and hired hands to use signal back in 2024 is said to be either destroying or failing to preserve relevant communication in real time. Aka they knew they may be taken to court and they wanted to cover their subcontracted tracks surmised the hindsight benefited Lively’s lawyers of the Wayfair defendants. It should be noted Baldonia’s crew have always denied Lively’s claims of what went down on the set of Sony. Yes, as have all the content creators, but deadlines still pimping for uh for Blake. Ironically, even with some of these uh affirming text and emails that have come out looking to counter that their argument, the Baldoni team has rejected from the drop the idea that they orchestrated a multi-prong smear campaign against Lively in 2024. Instead, they claim the harsh online blowback against the Gossip Girl star was organic from regular Joe’s and Josephines who were spotlighting what an insufferable elitist Lively could allegedly be. was she was absolutely was an insufferable elitist. Early this year, Blake actually sued Lively and we know all this blah blah blah blah long speculation, significant chatter uh to stay in Lively online lead up to a to August premiere and worries the actress would turn on Baldoni. The signal info and more came out of the depositions with ex Nathan staffers Katherine Casease and Brianna Butler. Now, this is this is the only thing I’ve seen where I’m like, “Oh, what does that mean? I don’t trust it means anything to be fair because Blake’s team is so misleading in general and etc. But if there was depositions where these ex staffers said, “Oh yeah, we hid all the secret stuff on Signal and this was that D and actually admitting to that and revealing that.” Well, then that wouldn’t be good for I would imagine Melissa and that team. Uh or did they just say, “Well, yes, we’ve used Signal, but it autodees.” And then now they’re trying to paint that nefariously. I don’t know. But I I you’d think in this these new filings they would have brought that up, Kim, if they were really like depos depositions said and proved that they, you know, had secret chats. I assume that doesn’t exist because why wouldn’t that be the headline here? You know what I mean? Um, so Stephanie Jones lawyer says the hits, so to speak, keep coming after Lively first filed. Uh, um, and she prepared to formally sue. Uh, ju Justin, evidence only recently produced reveals that soon after Lively initiated this action, Abel along with Freriedman and others were actively directing social media messages intended to promote Baldon and disparage Lively. This is such notice how this has nothing to do with the sexual harassment claim. Nothing against the Nothing. So now they’re like saying, “Well, yeah, what about the stuff Blake was putting in the press? So, he’s just supposed to shut up forever and can never defend himself in the press. That’s all retali It’s It’s mind-blowing the way she’s gaslighting the entire world and retelling the story. How she’s positioning it. Uh, it’s absolutely nuts. Jennifer Ael conspired with Melissa, Justin, and Wayfair to orchestrate a smear campaign. She did it in secret outside of Jones works and behind Stephanie Jones. Oh, piss off Stephanie Jones. You’re one of the I’ve heard allegedly one of the worst people who does this to everybody. The And Hollywood knows it. The hypocrisy here shows no bounds. Conversations were moved to autodeleting platform and evidence was destroyed. There can only be one reason for that. They had something to hide and wanted to make sure would never be discovered. Uh so anyway, and looking for financial judicial compensation, the me the 30-page memo from team Blake declares now that the dust is settled in fact discovering depositions have closed, two things are clear. Despite defendants’s clumsy efforts to cover their tracks, there is substantial evidence that the retaliatory campaign was in fact implemented and planned. I look forward to seeing that defendants flouted this court’s orders and destroyed and or andor failed to preserve or produce additional material and highly relevant evidence, the absence of which they intend to try to unjustly exploit in their favor. Uh so anyway, this is all pro Blake. Pro Blake. And now they’re trying to say that this is spoilated evidence. So she wants adverse interference and that’s where we were talking about getting jury instructions or having it thrown out, etc. She’s basically saying this is this is ridiculous. Uh we win. They’re deleting things. The fact that they use signal or voice memos to begin with proves their guilt is what they’re saying here. Kim, the ramifications of if a judge even accepted that would be insane. Instagram, uh, so many messages and group apps, they all do that. And, uh, you can be on certain chats and then the other person can delete it. So, does that mean I’m liable now because the other person delete? Like, this is absurd. Do you think any of this is going to hold up in a court of law? I I mean, with this case, who knows? I I you know, but I can’t help but like I cannot ignore that the initial um you know the the letter that they received about present uh preservation demands came out originally on December 20th. There seems to be this dispute now about whether or not the you know list back in the day was actually the first one. But legally I don’t think that argument makes a lot of sense. And even in I can put it this way. If you want to go look at a court listener you can. It’s there right now. You can go to document 555, page 17 out of 31, and it literally says, “The Wayfair dependents have known that Miss Lively would expect to receive such materials since December 20th when Miss Lively sent her initial preservation demand letters.” So if that’s the first time they were told to maintain communications, what are they saying? This will happen in August. So August to December. So if there was any autodeing in that time, that’s illegal. Hm. That’s a long time. That’s a long time. And I I know people that have deleting the delete stuff every month. I know people who never do. Right. It or and I don’t know what the defaults are within Signal myself. There’s just a lot of questions with this. And I feel like we live in a world right now where our online security and our safety is so important and people are going to take steps to keep things confidential, to keep things private. I understand a PR company wanting to keep things confidential and private. That’s kind of their thing. Yep. So, I don’t think that necessarily means that what someone’s doing is illegal, but it’s really scary now that it’s like if you have a message that you’ve deleted because you’ve made a typo or something, is someone going to say, “Well, clearly you were doing something illegal and that’s why you deleted it.” It’s like, this is crazy. It’s scary. This is crazy. It’s scary. And as someone who’s now has is still, as as Cassie said in the chat, last man standing, still trying to fight Blake and and get done with this. It it doesn’t surprise me that they’re still viciously trying to infer that there was shenanigans when there weren’t. And so that’s what’s that’s what’s really scary about all this and just frustrating of just like there they really are gaslighting the world. No, you did. They they literally in in my hearing said, “No, you you communicate with someone in 2024.” And held up a piece of paper as if I did, which I didn’t. And then literally I because I’m being gaslighted by these people, I’m like, “Did I I did I doubted myself. I had to go.” And then I I literally went back and watched every video, guys, from that 2024 period. And at the you know the irony, I was I was very very nice to Blake. Incredibly nice to Blake. In the video, I hype up Ryan Reynolds and my love of him and Blake. I I have worked with Ryan Reynolds. I like him. He’s a very nice guy. He was ve I can I can attest. I’m not going to share details. He’s an amazingly hardworking, sweet, nice Canadian guy. And I can only imagine his wife and he are very nice people. So I I am not here trying to bash Blake Lively merely pointing out how the media is portraying it. And I honestly I have no horse in this race. I don’t know Justin at all. But I’m I literally call him Justin. What was it? Baldoni or B I I said his name wrong in these all these videos early on. You kept calling him Baldini. Baldini. That’s what I keep calling now. I’ve learned it because the audience got mad at me. But this idea that I was paid by by them to make this content. We made 10 videos and I’m going through them all specifically and it reiterates our case that that we were so fair and impartial and it’s so clear Blake’s team hasn’t watched any of it. They’re just out there to paint a narrative that when they lose because there’s no evidence. Oh, they deleted it all. They hid it from us. They didn’t want to give it to us. They want to break break the Constitution and for get their way with everything. And when they don’t, which is they’re not allowed to do, well, they they hid it. They hit it. We were right. They were wrong. But we there was it was impossible to win. That’s what they’re going to do. That’s what they’re going to do. Mark my words. And it’s so infuriating. It makes me want to just put the the out there, Kim, because that’s what’s so frustrating out. I’m not going to because for reasons, but that’s what’s so irritating. They know they’re not going to be able to get a lot of this stuff. They’re not allowed to legally everything else. And that there is nothing. And so now they’re they’re their their move is to gaslight the world. Oh, they just deleted it all. Anybody who signal, well, clearly you’re guilty. The president was on signal doing war chats. I just I can’t even it’s we are we are in a crazy place now is now we could use your support now more than ever. There’s two ways you can do it just by liking etc. Go to the give and go. It’ll be pinned comment down below. 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    1. They’ve never even proved sexual harassment. And they cannot even prove any spare campaign whatsoever. They just don’t have a case. I don’t really understand why they would go this far with zero evidence.

    2. When is this going to end? I don't understand how the courts have allowed this to go on for so long with zero evidence. I'm from Australia, so I'm not sure how the judicial system works over there but you couldn't get away with what Blake Lively is doing here.

    3. 1. There is no retaliation if there is no sexual harassment (proof needed)

      This is Blake's limiting factor.

      She cannot claim that her SH claims were also auto-deleted because the she has herself shown to lie about the claims

    4. Wasn't she the one who deleted evidence i.e the texts that completely changed the narrative.

      She can say whatever she wants she needs to prove it, just like the SH claims she's yet to prove 😂

    5. She is now admitting she's not able to trace the untraceable which is why they termed it an untraceable smear campaign. They had nothing from the get go. BL Never thought it would go this far.

    6. Honestly I know a lot of people use these kinds of apps so things they said can’t be held against them. Also a lot will tell the other person if screenshots were taken.

    7. 1 thing that people should if you put an auto-delete msge, all your texts messages would be deleted. Which is not the case; because Baldoni’s team provided all messages receipts.

    8. Is Blake herself putting out these depositions or are her lawyers? Does she even know what’s being put out there nowadays? Is she signing her name to it? Because they have come out with the dumbest things possible for this case.

    9. At this point I am not surprised about all the gaslighting that BL an RR do. I am still shocked however that her lawyers so openly try to gaslight and lie to judge 🤨

    10. Very happy for Johnny Depp landing the role in a Christmas Carol. There's still some weirdos on Twitter who hate him which really saddens and frustrates me but thankfully the ignorance is not stopping Depp from living his life and having a career.

    11. She knows she’s a liar & started off wanting Baldoni until her husband found out… Then it became about taking control of the movie … Mid Ryan Reynolds was so butt hurt that he had to come up with the Nicepool character to stroke his fragile ego .

    12. where is the freaking evidence that she was SH????? Does anybody recall what originally started all this- BL said she was SH!!! Why does she not have her own evidence? Why does she have to rely on Justin's? I normally don't get upset when I'm reading stuff but this is truly gaslighting shame shame shame! and then telling the judge that they need to have jury instructions already, they're telling the judge how to do his job! WOW

    13. You would have to use the same argument for phone calls, in person, meetings, etc. 😂 “ your honor, I have no evidence that he murdered anyone but I’m sure he confessed in a phone call, so let’s just call it a day and convict him.”😂

    14. The evidence of a smear campaign wont be in any messages. It would be in the act of what was done for a smear campaign. 🤦‍♀️ She clearly has zero evidence of anything happening or she wouldn't say her case hinges upon unknown messages lol

    15. I want to see all of Blake’s messages to Stephanie Jones, Leslie Sloane, Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift. I bet these messages will show she lied and her and her team defamed and smeared Justin. Still waiting for information and discovery on Vanzan.

    16. They lost me when they say "Two things are clear"… Because thing number one seems contradicting to thing number two. There's either substantial evidence of the retaliatory campaign, OR there is an absence of evidence due to failure to preserve said evidence that could support BL's claim of retaliation…. Is it me, or do these two things are NOT as clear as they're hyping them to be?????

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