Blake Lively Conspiracy EXPOSED!? Lawyer Reacts To LIES About Justin Baldoni LOSING!?
Man, if you read the press, it sure looks like Blake Lively has won and Justin Baldoni missed deadlines and lost. Well, that’s not the case. And we got Ron Zambrano here to break it all down. Welcome to Popcorn Planet. I am Andy Signor. So glad to have Ron Zambrano back. Ron, I also got to give you a big congrats. I heard you won a huge sevenf figureure case uh for for a employee was against I guess her manager essayed them. It sounded awful, but congratulations for always being ahead doing these amazing uh uh victories for these uh victims out there. Bravo, sir. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, it’s always an honor to represent these these uh women who are who are victims and and for to give them some type of justice even though they can’t um you know, ever go back to where they were. But we’re really proud of it. Thank you. Well, I I like to share your your wins, too, because obviously you know what you’re talking about with this employment stuff out, especially out in California, and and I want to start with, you know, you’ve you’ve done a lot of these cases. I’ve been kind of blown away by the media basically lying in my opinion. I want to get your two cents, but all these articles in TMZ make it sound like Justin accepted his fate. It’s over. He missed a deadline to appeal, a judge’s ruling, that dismissed. It’s all over. People magazine after his missed deadline. Uh, Rolling Stone missed deadline. Uh, basically it’s over. Like this is all over New York Post, page six, ABC News, everywhere, all over the internet. It’s Justin Baldoni lost. He failed to do this. It’s kind of shocking. I I as I as you look at this though, you went through the actual judge’s rulings here. This isn’t true, is it? The reality is he didn’t actually miss a deadline. He still can appeal. Can you I I I I guess I’ve finally actually understand what’s happening, but can you perhaps explain it better to the audience? Sure. So, um in order to appeal under the federal rules of appellet procedure, there’s something called federal rule 4 and typically um in most even state courts, what has to happen is not only do you get the order that that the defense or whoever lost, you know, gets kicked out or gets a case kicked out, then you have like this process called entering judgment. You got to get a judgment signed and then you get an enter judgment and then the clock doesn’t start ticking to file the appeal until the entry of notice of judgment. And yes, it’s very very um complicated, probably over complicated for purposes of of how simple it is, but basically there’s this underlying kind of like practical rule that says, listen, the 30-day deadline really starts from the date of the order that kicks your case out that you want to appeal. But there’s like this other type of like mess of this, well, what about notice of entry or judgment? So, the judge said, “Listen, we just amended the federal well, not we, but the federal rule of appellet procedure was just amended. I can make the call that the that um I’m going to wait on having a finality of this particular issue until I rule on the subsequent motion for fees that we’ve already talked about, like the hundreds of millions of dollars.” And so, Judge Lyman said, “You know what? uh for purposes of just just judicial resources and clarity, um I’m going to rule now that we’re not going to start the 30-day rule, the 30-day de uh timing for purposes of filing an appeal, the window, because you can’t file before um you’re supposed to. Uh, but the 30-day window does not start until I, Judge Lyman, rule on Lively’s motion for fees connected to I, Judge Lyman’s order agreeing with Lyman uh, with Lively dismissing the cross complaint. So, technically, there is no delay. I mean, excuse me, there’s no there was no deadline to miss. So, right now, the deadline doesn’t exist now. It won’t even start. the 30-day window won’t start until there’s a ruling on the motion by Lively in connection with her work, which is this really big number. Um um and until then, you know, uh Baldon is just kind of just waiting waiting, right? As it says here, people can look it up themselves here on page 205. Uh but enumerated before an appeal from the judgment has been taken, the time to file an appeal runs for all parties from the entry of the order disposing of that motion rather than from the entry of final judgment. Uh and so one of the motions effectively pauses the appellet clock is a motion to alter amend the judgment under for he he goes in and explains it multiple times for all parties from the entry of the order of disposing of the motions or fees. So basically the clock hasn’t started for him to be able to appeal. It starts after he gets they sort out what the fees are. Correct. Yes. And he actually says it quite directly at the very in his very last full paragraph. If you go down uh there it is. It is therefore ordered. So the second paragraph it is further ordered under federal rule civil procedure 58e that Lively’s you could read it also but that’s yeah lively motion to treat pending motions fees as emotions and federal 559 uh the times motion seeking entry partial judgments denied moot given the court’s final judgment so again he can still appeal this this isn’t over and one could argue given that he is also just hired uh Alexander Shapiro who’s clearly uh you know appellet court uh and and and very established lawyer one could assume well yeah he’s not going keep arguing with with uh uh uh Lyman on this. They they could have other potential plans in the appeal, right? That wouldn’t be the time now anyway. Correct. Yeah, it wouldn’t be the time now anyway. So So there is a appealing too soon where the court of appeal can get a notice of appeals. It’s like you’re you’re just you’re not even supposed to be here. Uh because the appellet courts are very very they’re super strict strict sticklers for procedure. So, the again, the 30-day window has not started until there’s a ruling on the motion for fees. Um, and again, we’re talking very sophisticated people at the top of our profession at a national level. This is not stuff they will just forget about. If they thought there was an actual deadline, they would have filed the notice of appeal because it doesn’t cost anything. You don’t have to argue anything. I think it’s like a two-page form and like a fee of like $700. So, this isn’t uh, you know, if he had missed it, it’s news. But according to the way I read this ruling, um, it is it’s the judge is like, listen, we’re we’re going to what the 30-day window doesn’t start until I rule on the femotion. That’s it. Right. They have time. Well, I I guess what’s scary to me and as someone who’s still facing her wrath in my own subpoena drama, it’s just wild to see how the press just ate this up. is seemingly all just almost like Blake PR just spread spread some some sort of a sound bite that everybody ran with and then a lot of other people out there just like just setting up this narrative of will all the reactionary Democrat and right-wing content creators who spent months participating in this command against Blake apologize and admit they were wrong. Of course not. But it’s like that’s not what happened here. We’re still in the thick of it. As someone who’s represented a lot of uh regular people against powerful celebrities, is this something you see often where they are using these PR tactics and sort of power plays to play the media PR spin rather than actually what’s happening in the case? Oh, absolutely. Um it happens quite often. Um um I’ll refrain from names but yeah and it’s very very frustrating because the people surrounding uh these celebrities are invested in those celebrities success and they will use they will will pull all levers in order to frame the narrative at least in public uh for purposes of public relations because that’s really where they live and and die for purposes of their living. So if they can somehow spin something so that they get a push, right, a really good push of positive news their way, even though they’re not really being all correct, it’s good for the brand. And if the brand works, then the investors get a return if the brand that is partially tarnished starts to uh become untarnished, right? Like the poo on it starts getting wiped off. But this is going to be, you know, he could still appeal and what are they going to do next? like, oh, we we messed up. Cuz again, the window hasn’t even started yet. Well, it it’s wild because as someone who’s still facing the subpoena, it’s it’s interesting the the scariness of it of just sort of the control they have. Recently, also that was dropped was this sort of I guess this is the uh initial disclosures where they reveal who sort of they’re going after, who has this sort of information, and it’s a very long list that features all the obviously defendants, etc. Uh but then it goes down. Perez Hilton’s on here. Candace Owens is on here. Colleen Hoover is on here. Even Sherstey, I think, was on here. It’s just a huge list of people that’s, you know, they even wrote Claire AB parties who may have information for them. Uh, and it’s just wild because I’m not on here, Ron. I’m not on here yet. They are still out there not only trying to, you know, get me to give information, they’re now trying to like go against Lyman’s own rulings to basically change the the the time frame of which I’m supposed to now pursue my conversations of news gathering sources. Are you surprised that they’re still out there sort of playing these tactics? And uh is is this right in your in your mind? So to answer your first question, no. Um, it is when when celebrities do, you know, decide to fight back, they hire, they use their money and and influence to get the attorneys that will do what they tell them to do. And this is really what’s happening to you, I think, is is a terrible shame because it really chills other people trying to report the news, which is what the process is not supposed to be used for. And I am not surprised. But um for purposes of this, this is something you can use, Andy. Um for you was saying like I don’t know why they’re still asking for my stuff. They haven’t even identified me as someone who may know something. And I think that might be powerful. Yeah. I hope. And I’m I’m wrong. Sorry. Sher Ste was not on this. It’s another There’s so much stuff coming in. I missed there’s another story. Stay tuned. She’s not on this, but a lot of people are. And it is very weird that I’m still being Taylor Swift somehow on there. She’s bringing her in as someone who has knowledge even though she’s mad Justin brought her into the equation. Iran, there’s just so much hypocrisy and nonsense in here. It’s wild. Uh, speaking of nonsense, while I have you, I did want to get your thoughts because we have one more topic just quickly. Uh, Stephanie Jones, Jennifer Ael, this case is still going and Jennifer Ael just put her uh, sort of amended uh, complaint in. And in here, there’s a lot of stuff. Just for sake of clarity, uh, thanks for Kim’s notes. I have some sort of summaries here because a lot’s redacted. But she talks about how a lot of this phone, this is the phone that was taken, right? Jennifer Abel’s phone was taken, which was all those texts were used to basically start this case. And she’s now, you know, suing Samantha Jones, etc., saying, well, this was wrong. Uh, and she’s mentioning the fact that, yeah, they not only was, well, I guess the debate of whether this was a work phone or not. I’m curious your employment legal, you know, mind. There’s she’s talking about how, you know, communications were immensely private about her and her sex lives, about her fertility issues with her husband. Uh, so much private stuff as well as during the case, etc., personal photos. All were being dispersed not only through Jones but to Blake uh and etc. and the press. Uh they’ve now been uh captured for this relegated litigation. It’s been handed in through the litigation. Like how is this allowed? And do you think this is going to come back to really hurt team Blake and Stephanie? Uh they used the fake Shell Corporation as you remember it seems the Van Zam stuff. How is this not a bigger deal for the judge? And do you think we’ll that she could potentially finally get justice in this or because it’s a work phone, she’s screwed and they were allowed to do everything they wanted with her personal information. How is this okay? What are your thoughts? Well, I I I immediately remember when you and I first met for the documentary uh out in the valley here in California and I was I was commenting like it’s really weird that they have someone else’s phone. So, when it comes to work phone and privacy, um there are some very specific notice requirements uh for someone to be on. So when I give an employee any electronic device, I have to if if I intend to like use anything there, they you have to tell them like listen, I’m giving you this, but everything that you put in here technically belongs not to me but to the company. So and it has to be in writing and if it it was in writing and it was acknowledged by Abel, then even though she put personal stuff there, she was on notice and she shouldn’t have done it. That doesn’t mean that the company or here Stephanie Jones can use it however she wants or give it to whoever she wants. She still has to use some type of discretion judgment and if she gave for instance the entire electronic contents right a photo digital copy of the phone which I think is what happened because of the way the uh CRD complaint was quoted and was put into the complaint and that that was just given to Lively. That is absolutely a violation of a Abel’s um of privacy rights, right? Like her stuff about her husband, her stuff about all all, you know, her sex life, all that stuff is not stuff that was needed for purposes of the underlying litigation. And if that if everything was just just handed over to a third party, that is defamation. That is absolutely invasion of privacy. And if you didn’t get permission first of of kind of extracting that information uh and if there was no notice like listen um your phone is going to be pretty much like don’t use your phone for personal purposes because you know if that notice wasn’t there Sammy Jones is big trouble big big trouble and potentially I think lively because they should have known they should have asked like wait a minute how do you have someone’s personal stuff and if they didn’t take reasonable steps because you and I would have asked that like whoa whoa how is it that you have such intimate details about a third person that I don’t even know how is it you should you as a reason push I don’t know if I want to have this I don’t want to use this I don’t want to read this it is something that is a very very delicate situation so it’s all contingent whether Stephanie Jones which I’ve heard through rumors and rumors and rumors probably isn’t the best boss um did he te cross her tees and tossed her eyes with regard you know you dotted her eyes rather with regards to doing these really formal notices It’s not just an NDA. It has to be like, I’m giving you a phone. Here’s a w not a waiver, but I’m giving you notice. Whatever you put in this phone, I’m I’m going to have access to that’s one. But even if she had access to personal stuff, giving it to a third party, that could in of itself be a a basis for defamation in my opinion. I I It’s interesting you brought that up because there’s also another mention where they bring up Vanzam. the same day the lawsuit was filed, Jones warned a departing employee not to work with Abel because her business wouldn’t be around much longer. Sort of implying these sinister plans. Uh, and then also as the document sort of goes in here and explains more, I just I have a summary. It’s easier to find, but we’ll go through this tomorrow on the live as well in more detail, guys, so make sure to subscribe. Lively parties likely anticipated or were told directly that the New York Times would not traffic in stolen communications under these circumstances and needed the color of the law. Jones Jones worked for their part, wanted to insulate themselves from legal exposure, hence the enter of Vanzam into now the lawsuit. So again, I’m still shocked this isn’t a big part. Final thoughts, do you think this will finally start getting some attention or is is Lyman going to not see this as relevant? Uh, well, Livelin, I I don’t think Lyman um has a choice because the lawsuit is now consolidated and related to the larger story that started with Lively’s lawsuit. So he’s going to have to be uh you know what the claims include these allegations and it’s absolutely relevant. Now it depends what Abel is going to do. If I was a attorneys I would think about getting discovery to figure out if it was actually communicated and how was communicated to Lively and who lively repeated it to in order to include Lively and anyone else there as part of the defendants for the defamation invasion of privacy claims. That’s that’s something I would do. It’s a lot of work and you’re dealing with a lot of things and you know how it’s like in litigation this but it might be worth it and I would not be surprised if Freriedman is not you know helping with these thoughts for purposes of of egging these people on because their discovery just started or well it’s not as far along as the other so many movie pieces. I always appreciate when you make time to come in and we’ll have you back. Please guys follow Ron Zambrano when you can on uh West Coast Trial Lawyers is where if you ever need him if you got an important case. Thank you, sir. As always, guys, make sure you hit that subscribe if you haven’t already. We’ll have him back and we’ll give you more insight. We’ll be live tomorrow with lots more to go through. So, if you missed it, uh, please join us. Hit that thumbs up, etc. Leave your comments for engagement and stay tuned. What are your thoughts on all this? I want to hear them down below. Thank you guys so much for watching and stay tuned for more here on Popcorn Planet.
Blake Lively Conspiracy EXPOSED!? Lawyer Reacts To Media LIES About Justin Baldoni LOSING!?
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32 Comments
I think it’s very telling that Blake lively is so desperate to get these headlines out there.
What insanely LAZY (at best) “journalism”. This has Maximum effort tentacles written ALL OVER IT. A maximum effort in making💩 look like chocolate.
Trending on Reddit today… Ukraine, govt, and Justin Baldoni losing his lawsuit 🙄
If you get a company phone keep you own private phone for your personal use. Never give a company the ability to see your private info
They are absolutely dead wrong. Justin’s innocent and he’s not going to stop until he’s name is cleared..
That's Hollywood! Lol No seriously people have no clue how Mafia style Hollywood is behind the scenes. It's mostly not nice people.. it's power hungry business people scheming, lies, bribes threats, promises and so on.. Time for people to wake up and stop glorifying that industry and putting them all on pedestals or believing every headline.. imo lol 😆
How are they not being held accountable or have tons of comments or people saying hey your actually wrong and that's not what's going on, so maybe fact check BL paid headlines first lol I just don't get it.. even JD trial wasn't this outrageous.. NYT, TMZ, people mag daily mail and many more.. all trash and clearly do not report anything truthful or at least report on both sides of it.. will put out whatever pays most apparently..
So good to see Ronald again! Best wishes from Bulgaria!
TMZ has mud on their face once again! If they had survey on the MOST hated broadcasts now, TMZ might make #1! It would be interesting if you did the survey, but please don’t do it on your members only because a lot of your nonmembers watch you daily but are on fixed income and can not afford paying for our internet and paying for membership too.
Isn’t BL doing a smear campaign against Justin? The only difference is Justin has been telling the truth.
Also Kjersti said she is on that list as people who may know something.
I just can’t understand why Justin is not allowed to sue for defamation when Lively is obviously lying and smearing his name. I hope the truth comes out and that BL and RR have to pay everyone they dragged through this lawsuit.
Also Andy please give attention to TMZ’s horrific accusations against Britney. Harvey is basically saying she needs to be in a conservatorship.
13:07 so then why did the judge dismiss all of that?
I would follow TMZ knowing to take it with a grain of salt- but Harvey is a lawyer and HE KNOWS how to read a court order. This is malice. TMZ, NYT, Forbes, People awards, Marvel, Ryan Reynolds everything including Wrexham, Sony, WME… things I never thought about but have since banned in the last 10 months. This cannot possibly be worth it to them to keep protecting Blake and Ryan. Who throws who under the bus first?
I get why WF JB are being quiet but I hope we get something on all this craziness soon. Wonder if the Fritz or BF will respond?! lol oh boy this is all so next level and blowing my mind.. what a circus. BL is way worse then AH lol Justin deserves justice!!!
Love Ron when he is on!!
how did ll the media fet it wrong? do they all have the same legal consultant?
Anyone else think Lively looks like Jaime Lynn Spears? Both awful human beings.
Andy how are you not on the list?!? Lol 🤣 Kjersti said she's on it today. What a shit show.. Blake witch project is scorching the earth and anyone who tells her no or disagrees or won't follow her lies. Ugh 😩🤦🏻♀️🤯
I hope she thinks this case is worth her career and marriage
Ron Z. is so insightful, intelligent, with mischievous, sparkling eyes when he talks about this case. I really enjoy listening to him, thank you Popcorn Planet for inviting him!! Un bisou à tous from France
Team Baldoni
👋 hey now all her clients should jump 🚢 ship and leave her, she is shady 🙄 😒 as hell, would not trust her 😑
I don’t understand why the headlines are always putting BL winning when there’s no ruling!
She still hasn't even proven SA I dont know where she gets off acting like shes won anything
LIVELY HAS LOST IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, hope she’s happy staying home with her kids, no one will want to work with her nor see anything she does
Justice for Justin ❤
The PR world is so dirty and underhanded.
Ron is a great guest. Congrats Ron, on your case.
It's lazy 'journalism'. They get 'stories' they don't investigate.
JB's team is not feeding them & never will be a great source, so they regurgitate the shite fed to them by people who know people who will always do so into the future.
It clearly shows that the mainstream media is in cahoots with Lively’s narrative
Ron Zambrano is a brilliant guest to your updates.
Blake should do herself a favour and drop this, she is fumbling at needles in a haystack to save her reputation and its never gonna work because you cant hide behind the medias lies anymore because too many people watch alternative media. Cant teach stupid. The more she carrys on the deeper her hole gets, if she stopped this it would eventually be forgotten, but no, she has to keep doubling down because they are total narcissists!
Go Ron! 🎉🎉🎉
Blake and her attorneys are abusing the court system and it shouldn’t be allowed!