What’s Really Going On With Lively VS Baldoni | 2 Angry Men

What’s Really Going On With Lively VS Baldoni | 2 Angry Men

You took Blake’s deposition, right? Um, I did. So, how’d that go? Did you score points? Can you give us some overview? I’d like to say welcome to Two Angry Men, but we got three today. We don’t have three. Three for the price of two. And isn’t Brian the OG? Wasn’t the the first guy on The Two Angry Men? Brian was the first guest on Two Angry Men. Brian Freriedman, the great lawyer who um represents somebody that we are going to talk about right now. He represents Justin Beldoni. And Blake Lively is now saying to Justin Beldoni, “Cough up $161 million for smearing me, ruining my acting career, and ruining my business.” And that doesn’t even get into the damages she said she suffered for what she claims is sexual harassment on the set. So Brian, I’m just so curious um how you received the latest filing from Blake Lively that the smear campaign cost her that kind of dough. Well, since there was, you know, we we obviously have detailed pretty well that we don’t believe there was a smear campaign. Um, you know, we we uh we’re not surprised at anything we see in this case. It’s it’s been a it’s been quite a whirlwind of a case. Um, but, you know, we’re pretty happy with what the evidence has shown so far and uh we feel good about trial. we feel excited about going to trial and you know I always talk about in every case you know sometimes you you want somebody to want an outrageous amount of money you know sometimes that’s a good thing not a bad thing you know I have a question and I am not just even though in full disclosure you and I are are very close um the I haven’t talked to you about this but I have a sneaking suspicion there’s been a lot of reporting And I know this may surprise you, Brian, but I don’t think accurate reporting that there was a deadline that was missed. Um, are you able to talk about that because I have a theory on what really happened? Well, we should just say it this involves the dismissal of uh Justin Belone’s countersuit. Sure. Um, there were no deadlines that were missed. We’re, you know, we’re always glad when that doesn’t happen. Um, I’m not really sure. Yeah. So is the malpractice insurer usually. Exactly. And I’m not sure I’m not sure how anybody even thought that a deadline would be missed. Before anyone can can file an appeal, there needs to be a final judgment in order for there to be a final judgment. The judge has to actually issue a final judgment. And then there are certain amount of days that you have after that to go ahead and file a document called a notice of appeal. Um, in this case, the judge actually didn’t issue a final judgment until just a few days ago, but also reserved that final judgment from being really appealable until after the judge rules on the attorney’s fees motion. So, there’s there’s there’s going to be some time until you could even possibly file a notice of appeal. And, um, you know, people talk all the time about, well, why didn’t they, you know, why why didn’t they amend again? why didn’t they, you know, file a a new complaint um or an amended complaint? And um you know, when if you’re familiar with standards of appeal, sometimes you don’t do that because you have a better chance of winning on appeal based on a dismissal of you know, the the the first complaint rather than a subsequent complaint that you might amend. So will do you intend to appeal? Um, I think that we intend to take a look, you know, timing is is everything, right? I mean, uh, look at look at Mark’s grandchildren now. I mean, timing timing is timing is is is everything. Um, you know, do you intend to appeal? Well, you know, where are we where will we be when the time for appeal comes, right? I expect that where we’ll be when the time for appeal comes is is we will be victorious um after we win a trial. Um and then you know the clients will make a decision about whether to appeal or not. If you were to ask the question today, they may have a different answer than they have then. Um and and it just you know you you know it just depends really where their headspace is at that time. I I I will tell you this um you know the case has always been about you know was there sexual harassment? Case has always been about was there a smear campaign. That’s really as simple as it is. Um and and so you know trial will tell um a jury will make that determination factually and we feel really confident um that we’re going to get the right answers to both those questions. And by the way Bri Brian and and Harvey the idea that that was put out there and I know what what that is. Talk about spin the that came from the uh Blake Lively camp that there was a deadline that was missed trying to portray this as some kind of a legal victory when literally it focuses and like a laser onto the claims. And by the way, if you have followed this and Harvey, I don’t know anybody in the media who’s followed this more closely than you have. Everything that Brian has developed so far that I’ve seen, and I’m just looking from the outside in. I’m not involved at all. But everything I’ve seen, all of those claims have been basically debunked. So why why even get into the other stuff? Because boy, if Brian is successful, if Baldon is successful, the the the turnaround, the consequence at that point is unbelievable. [Music] By the way, this episode of Two Angry Men is sponsored by Incogn. It’s shocking to find out how much of your personal information ends up online. And this, by the way, is not by chance. 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Even with the dismissal and everything else, he’s winning the tick- tock war. But legally, if this thing goes to trial, I mean, it just feels like you’re going to watch the rubble bounce on both sides because, you know, she’ll make claims, he’ll make claims, it’s going to be he said, she said, and you know, it doesn’t feel as clean as Johnny and Amber where he ended up with that decisive victory. just feels like this case my my gut has been telling me and I and I feel like maybe I’m wrong now that this is just not going to go to trial because it’s in nobody’s interest. It’s going to settle somehow. I I you know I I think that you know people have been saying that for a long time now and um I think when you have a case that involves um the issues this case involves sometimes the only way to resolve it is trial. Um, I see that that, you know, look, people are really dug into this case. Um, and and and rightfully so, and I think it’s an important case for everyone. Um, it’s an important case, frankly, for society, um, in in an unusual way. But, um, I I you know, I think the case does go to trial. I think the case has to go to trial. I think that it has to go to verdict. I think that that that from Justin Baldon’s standpoint, who by the way, I’ve now known him for almost a year, um, incredible man. Like, incredible. Not not not like a good person, an incredible man. Truly. And um and and and I just think that that you know that that he has to go to trial and let a jury of his peers decide do these you you know do these facts rise to the level of sexual harassment? You know you know was there a smear campaign that that that he participated in? Um you know those you know those kinds of things. And and and to clarify like smear campaign there’s not really a cause of action, right? I was going to say smear campaign is well it’s sort of defamation. I mean it really it it boils down to if somebody is telling the truth about somebody there’s not really a cause of action. It’s a smear based on false facts it seems. Well yeah it it you know you’d have to get narrowly get into the issues of those things. You’d also narrowly have to get into the issues of retaliation, right? And was there retaliation and what was the retaliation and you know what was the prox the temporal proximity and things like that that that give rise to it. But um I you know look I I just think that this you know who you are who you are can truly come out in a in a trial and Justin is is is a fantastic person. Um, and and I think you know that that people will be able to see and hear him for the first time in in a year. You took Blake’s deposition, right? Um, I did. So, how’d that go? Did you score points? Can you give us some overview? You know, I don’t think I’m allowed to talk about that. But what about what about what about broadly? Are you satisfied that what you got out of that deposition um could torpedo her claim of sexual harassment? I mean, I think broadly I can just say this that that that I’m really really looking forward to the trial. Um it’s been a long time coming. There’s been a lot of noise about the case. Some of the some of the the the most difficult parts I think about hearing about the case in the media has been mainstream media and how mainstream media has treated um the case. Um, and if you look at it, if you look at it and and you really kind of zero in on it, um, you know, there there are a lot of reasons why mainstream media has taken this case and twisted the words and and and misrepresented what’s really been going on in the case. and and it’s done that in part because there are, you know, big- time powerful important relationships with certain people and certain media um you know that’s owned by you know very few people in this town and um and and that’s why when you talk about the Tik Tok people they’re they’re not really my people they’re you know they’re your people they’re everyone’s people they’re the people right they’re they’re the jurors um and by the way You just hit exactly what I was going to say. I’m sitting here hours from when a mayoral candidate did what if you would predicted this eight or nine months ago would have been unthinkable where um this city also uh the jury did in the Diddy case something that people thought was unthinkable. And by the way, the canary and the coal mine in both of those cases, those the both of those instances or phenomena happen to be what you’ve characterized Harvey as the tick tock kind of the finger on the pulse. I’ll characterize it as uh I think or Brian has called it mainstream. I’ll just call it legacy. I just think the the absolute gulf between mainstream legacy and what’s really happening has never been shown more clearly than what’s been going on in New York in the last eight months. But Brian, I’m interested in what you said that you think mainstream media, it sounds like what you’re saying is they haven’t given Belon a fair shake. Um, from my seat, it feels to me like I mean I certainly know on our side Blake is taking lots of lumps. Yeah. I don’t I I haven’t seen that. Um I I really haven’t seen that. What I’ve seen is things misconstrued. You know, for example, on TMZ itself, um you you saw you know, you saw it on TMZ. You know, they said that deadlines were blown and and Justin has walked away from the appeal. He’s walked away from his case. Uh he’s fine with the fact that that the case was dismissed. That that was on TMZ. Yeah, we that was not true. We messed that up. I agree with you. I agree with you. But that wasn’t uh Look, we’re not going to say something that we know is not true because it’s ultimately going to get corrected. We messed that up. Well, you’re definitely not going to say that you knew that it was untrue and said it. That’s for sure. Brian, there is definit I will I will say this. We We corrected it, right? There’s no It doesn’t It doesn’t serve us to put his story up that we end up correcting. We screwed that up. And I I disagree with you. I agree. You you you may you you may have screwed it up actually because what you may have done is you may have read deadline. No no no no which and by the way if if you want to talk about us I felt I felt he’s been winning this all along. I mean we talked about that as early as today that I you know personally and I’ve talked about this on television. We’ve done stories on this in the website. Um I feel like Justin Beldon is winning this. I think this really has hurt not just Blake Lively, but it’s also hurt Ryan Reynolds. And so, you know, I’m just telling you from my seat, um, I’m not seeing this as, oh wow, Blake’s winning this thing at all. At all. Even though her lawsuit is still the active one right now, I’m not seeing it that way. I can’t I can’t really judge, you know, at all like who’s winning or not. Well, I’m I’m basing it on I’m basing it on just what the way it’s being received by people. You know, when you see, for example, the unedited dance that became a big part of this case that the way it’s been received is her view that this was uncomfortable and harassment and whatnot wasn’t landing. So, I’m just looking at pieces of the case that have come out and the Taylor Swift element of the case has been devastating for Blake Lively. And I’m talking about in terms of public perception. So, yeah. Um, in terms of who’s taking the lumps, Taylor Swift, the unedited dance, and other things, it seems to me it’s been Blake Lively. I I I look at it a little different. I I haven’t I I have I haven’t seen it that way. probably cuz I don’t look at it that way. I I I look at it as what’s the jury verdict going to be. That’s what matters. It’s it’s it’s it’s really ultimately what matters to Justin Baldon as to whether he’s going to be able to work again. Um it matters, you know, as to Jamie Heath. It matters, you know, as to Melissa Nathan. It matters as to Jen Ael. It matters as to all of the people that have been sued in the case. Um and and and I think that that when we talk about, you know, we Harvey, in six months from now, we won’t talk about lumps or we won’t talk about who’s winning or who’s losing. You know, we’ll have a verdict. And um no, it’s funny you say that because remember the runup, you know, we only have collectively as a society a very short memory, but remember the runup to Johnny Depp. And I and and by the way, in the verdict in that case, they both got verdicts, but his verdict dwarfed hers. And so I always say Brian’s kind of viewpoint here makes the most sense. If if you’re a trial lawyer, one of the complaints I always have is is that trials have now become kind of ESPN like in terms of who’s winning first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, what do you got to do in the fourth quarter, it’s it’s ultimately as a trial lawyer, it’s what happens in the end. Can I just throw something at you, Brian? I I’m We talked about this today on the show. Um, I have a feeling you’re going to disagree with me on this, but um, we are in the position where we get um, contacted by publicists all over the, you know, all over entertainment and um, it’s just been funny to me that each side has been saying we’re clean, the other side isn’t. Both sides have been doing this stuff and I know it because I’ve been the recipient of those phone calls among other people in my office. And what occurred to me today when I read that Blake Lively was saying she she’s uh incurred $161 million in damages because of a smear campaign that you know there’s a there’s a principle in the law called unclean hands that if you claim somebody else did you dirty but you did them dirty the same way a pox on both their houses. And I wondered that could this case just end up where the jury just says I don’t want to hear from either of you guys. You both were doing that case dis, you know, you end up getting the verdict because the jud the jury just doesn’t want to give money to anybody because both people were playing the game. Yeah. I’m not sure how that relates to this case. I can talk generally as I understand what a publicist does, right? You know, I think publicists call, you know, reporters and news outlets all the time to make sure that a story is correct or to make sure that their client’s side of the story is heard. I mean, I think that’s kind of normal operating procedure. I I I think it’s rarely the case where a publicist would call up and and and say something that was completely untrue. But even even more even more rare, right? Even more rare, Harvey, would be when a publicist would call up something that was completely untrue and the reporter would say, “Okay, great. That let me write that down and let me just put that on the air right away.” I mean I mean every single news outlet that I know does their own homework, does their own research in any situation. Um, I don’t think that that trust uh, you know, while it’s an important factor, it’s it’s not the it’s not the the level or the duty um or or the the line in which you you draw. You you would you would go around, you’d make calls and make sure that things are correct of whatever you’re hearing. And and I don’t mean that specifically to the Baldoni case at all. I just mean it to to any story. Something pops up, you call up, you ask a question, and then you verify what that information is so you make sure you get it right. Okay. So now you want to know the way it really works. Sure. They spin more than a drrele. Number one, that they are not just giving you facts. They are calling you with a spin that they want to put on for their client and they feel that’s their job. So we get this. I I mean I’ve got literally literally thousands of calls from most every publicist and every publicist can take a set of facts and shade it or change it and they do it all the time. And what they did, let me let me just let me just give you this. And what they’ll do cleverly is they’ll say, “We have sources directly connected to and they and and listen, we’ve gotten things where we wouldn’t put it up, but it ends up somewhere that they know they can get it somewhere.” And they choose, you know, in ranking order where they want to go, but they know they can get it out. and once they get it out somewhere, it just gets picked up. So that’s the game. But I’m telling you that publicists are not calling and saying, “Let me just tell you the factual basis.” They are they are they are lobbying everybody and sometimes just with false information. All a lot a lot. So let me ask you a question. Since you know that to be true, when a publicist calls you up, you’re not just going to take what they say and say, “Okay, this is true. I’m going to put it up the way they are. You’re going to go out and try to verify the story. Yeah. But they can listen and sometime I’m not saying they always do things that are unverifiable. That’s not true. And sometimes what they tell you is from their side and they’ll make an allegation that really hurts the other side, but they can get it out there. Now, if you’re a news outlet and they make that kind of allegation and you call the other side and they just don’t want to comment or whatever and you know a lot and and you know it has to be case by case, but those things get out and whether they get out by us or somebody else, they get out. And you know, when you talk about getting frustrated with bad information, you know, we’ve seen things that are just crazy that get out there. And I’m not saying we’re immune from it at all. I I’m not acting like a knight, you know, in shining armor here because I admit to you, we screwed up the appeal story. I absolutely admit that to you. So, I get it. But I am telling you, it can be a really dirty business, the business of publicists, right? I I understand that. But if that’s the case and and and reputable outlets, whether it be TMZ, whether it be Deadline, whether it be any other publication, they would know that that that’s what happens. And they would want to make sure before they put out their own story that that story is truthful and accurate or as accurate as it can be. And you want to know the truth? And this is the dirty little secret. Yeah, you’re right. But guess what they’re looking for? They’re looking for content. Because if you don’t put content up, you don’t have a business. So then the question becomes when is the content verifiable. And it depends on the outlet and even within the outlet, the people who are working on a story on what happens with that. And there are some outlets that play much faster and looser than others. And in our climate, you get something up somewhere and it gets picked up everywhere. So, they know that game and that’s the way it works. And yeah, maybe they’d prefer it to be say on TMZ than I don’t know another place that they’re thinking of. But if we won’t do it, they’ll go to the next place and the next place and they’ll eventually get it up somewhere. And we see this all the time, Brian. Well, let me let me ask you a question. How did you get the story wrong about the appeal? Well, I’m not going to throw anybody under the bus in my office. So, I don’t want names can assume somebody called I can I I’m going to Well, no. I I I know. And here’s the thing. I think it was analyzed wrong. I think it was just analyzed wrong. I don’t know all the specifics, but I know kind of how this thing worked. And when I got involved in this thing, it became apparent that our story was wrong. And what my goal was at that point was you got to make a correction if we’re wrong and tell me if we’re wrong and let’s figure it out. But you know what the problem? It was it was just it was just not analyzed right. It wasn’t I I think the counting of it, Brian, in terms of the final judgment, I mean, this is what I think that wasn’t calculated in this. It was more when the what whatever that was filed that was the countdown stage. I think that was it. I think that’s that’s what what happened here that they they didn’t count. I’m going to I’m going to I’m going to come to your defense. Well, I’m not I’m not asking for a defense. I think I think what happened is somebody in the overnight crew for those No, it wasn’t. You go to bed. You go to bed. You’re my toddler. Okay. Stop it. and then you’re asleep and then you know somebody post I said we we get most things right I mean we just do and we’re really vigilant we have lawyers we have researchers we have producers we have a lot of steps that we go through we are not immune from mistakes but what I’m saying to you is that you know generally when you want to talk about a publicist calling and spinning a story and talking about I have a source. I’m connected to this story. You can base this on sources connected to so and so. They’ll get that up. They will get that up. But you guys run it by your lawyers. Yeah. And and and and all that stuff. You don’t just put it up automatically. Of course. Of course not. Right. I mean I I can’t tell you you know what the percentages calls. Yeah. I mean calls to people. How many times do I call you Garagus? I mean that’s I know that. And you sit there and you say, “What about this? What about this?” I keep No, no, no. We did that today. We did that today. And so, you know, on a story we were working on. And so, you know, we for the phony story that Sarak planted about, did he? It wasn’t Sak. That’s hilarious. But no, we talked we we we had we had four or five phone calls today on that story before we put it up. So, um, and and we didn’t confirm it with you. We confirmed it elsewhere. So, um, yeah, I mean, you don’t just do it, but Brian, you got to realize that these publicists will call and they will couch things in sources and say, “Look, you’ve worked with me before, and there’s no way of knowing who that source is.” If they say it is a source directly connected to soand so, that they will get that story up somewhere. It may be that the some outlets say, “No, that’s just wild. We need some verification.” They will get it up somewhere every time. They know exactly how to do this. And often times and often times they play dirty, right? And then if they place it anywhere, then the more reputable ones will say according to and that gives them their one degree of separation, which is awful. Well, you’re not you’re not wrong there. Yeah. It’s interesting because sometimes when a story you get a story out there and the story is wrong, you wonder why there’s not enough um of of other people and the other side of the story saying, “Hey, I’d like you to come out and say that story was wrong and how that story became wrong because that’s not correct.” and and you don’t get as many people correcting the story that was spread when it was first put out there. Okay, I’m going to give you I I’m I’m going to play your game here because you are right on the Again, I’m not going to dispute the appeal issue. There have been numerous times and Brian, I’m not saying this as a criticism because I know you have reasons for it, but you know this that there have been numerous times that I and others in my office have texted you and you haven’t returned the texts and it happens a lot where you will you will not return our texts and I’ve made phone calls to you. I’ve texted you Jamie, my news director, has done the same and others as well. So sometimes you get a tip on one side and you try and verify it with the other side and you don’t only get a you don’t even get a no comment. You just don’t get an answer and you know that’s happened because you and I have been involved in that together. Now, you may have your reasons for not wanting to get back to me, and I understand that, but when you talk about is there a lack of trying, at least with us and you, I think you’ve seen it. Oh, no. I of course, you know, and and and you’re excellent at it and and you always do that. That’s why you get stories first and that’s why you’ve been so successful in your career. I I sometimes don’t get back to you because I actually I could be in court. Um, you know, my wife, by the way, my wife and I have had this very conversation about getting back to her. Um, and and I’ve had it with other people also because, you know, I I feel like I could sit there with my phone and do nothing else other than respond to texts and emails and the day will end and I will have done nothing but that. Um, so if I’m in a meeting, if I’m in a lunch, if I’m, you know, if if if you know, if I’m in a deposition, if I’m in court or anything else, there might be an actual legitimate reason I’m not responding. Um, or or I might actually be writing a brief. And certainly, as you’ve seen, the activity in this case in particular, you know, we might be working pretty hard to uh to keep up and and and do our best to actually prove that um, you know, the truth. And I get that. But I guess the point I’m making it’s not this is not about just it’s not about you. It’s generally that you know with you I get it and there are different reasons but you know we make efforts all the time to contact you and and and the interesting thing to me and this is this is the thing we laugh about in my office that when there is a crisis sometimes where a publicist is representing a client where we have a story that we really need a reaction to. They run for the hills that they literally turn off their f publicists turn off their phones, will not respond to emails, will not respond to texts, and they think by closing their eyes, that’s the solution. So when they’re needed the most, and this happens, Brian, I’m telling you all the time, that when they’re needed the most, they go radio silent on you. So when you wonder how do stories get out where you don’t get the other side or it seems skewed or false or whatever else, you got to see what’s behind that curtain. And this happens all the time with a lot of publicists that when there’s any heat, they run for the hills. Is is there any kind of rule internally where when you put out a story and you find out that hey, we got that wrong that you make sure there’s as big a story that’s put out that says you got it wrong and that it gets corrected. Yeah. I mean, if there’s if there’s a story that needs a correction like that, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, we will change a headline. we will do what we need to do and then re then put it back toward the top of the website. You know when that happens but a lot of times it never happens. See a lot of times they just let it lie and they will not even call you. They may grouse about it. You know maybe a publicist grouses about it to you but they’ve never gotten back to the media outlet that they have the gripe with because they don’t want to deal with it. I mean it’s weird. You don’t have to go to college to be a publicist. You don’t have to get training to be a publicist. You just call yourself. You don’t have any You don’t have anybody looking over your shoulder. That’s for sure. Yeah. And and and and it’s crazy that the way they run for the hills when there’s a problem is just remarkable. And it it it is a remarkable thing. And if the clients knew that the publicists were doing this, I can’t imagine that they would keep them on retainer. But it happens so much. Having h having represented a lot of news outlets in in my day, right? I also think that whether or not you get a hold of the publicist or not, you still have a responsibility to try and verify the story as being accurate and correct. And um and and you want to do that whether or not it’s through the publicist or through anyone else. If you can’t get a hold of anyone, you you may look to a third party source or you may try to get a lawyer to look and say, “Is this the right, you know, do we have this right? Is this is this not right?” I mean, I I I do think there’s other ways to verify it. You want to make sure that you you try your best to do it. And and Harvey, I I do know that you you do reach out and you do do that and you do it yourself, which is actually amazing. I I one time I thought there were four of you. Um, listen, you the mantra in my newsroom is side doors is that yeah, you go directly to get I’ll give you an example. Um, and it’s it’s a funny story. We got an email from a I’m just going to give you an example of a side door. There was a case this week where this farmer was in a bar in Florida and he was getting drunk with these three guys and he was saying he was losing he’s going to lose his house. They needed to make money and they knew he was a chicken farmer. So they started talking about how many eggs can a chicken hatch in a day and they got in a big argument and the farmer ended up firing shots at all three of the guys. Didn’t hit anybody but got arrested. So, we saw a little bit of the video and I wanted to get the video. So, I told my my producer, “Call the police and let’s get the body cam because there was body cam on this um on this news station after shooting.” No, it was the aftermath. It was the aftermath of the shooting, but you see the farmer getting arrested in the whole thing. So, um the police didn’t get back. So, I said, “Okay, side doors guy guys.” So, we looked up our Fox affiliate in that market. We called the affiliate. We asked them, “Did you do the story? Did you get the raw body cam?” They did. We got the body cam. We got it up. So, it’s side doors. So, yeah, when we deal with publicists, we always use these side doors to try and verify things. And usually, listen, I’ll be honest with you, there are some publicists in this town we just don’t trust, no matter what they say. And we’ll always find other ways. Is there a friend of the person that they’re talking about? Is there a spouse? Is there a business person? is there and we always use these side maybe I’m talking too much but we always use these side doors and the side doors are usually more effective than the direct approach just the way it’s f it’s funny you talk about farmers yesterday I spent the day uh in a mediation involving a uh a uh a cattle uh company and uh and and the and and the farmland and and a bank called uh Robbo Uh, Robbo Bank does a lot of agricultural. A terrible name for a bank. Robbo Bank. Robbo Bank. Yeah. Look, look, look them up. There’s a reason for that. You You won’t You won’t be surprised. Okay. Um, more to come on that. I love it. I love it. And here I was gonna You You come up with Robbo Bank. All I could think of is what chicken story, but there you go. Anyway, listen, um Brian, thanks for hopping on. We so appreciate it. We love having you on. Yeah, I know. Both both both you guys are fantastic and I love the podcast. So, um I’m going to try to be happy the rest of the day. You guys remain two angry men and uh we’ll talk later. Thank you. Take my phone calls. [Laughter] Bye, guys. Bye bye. See you guys later.

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