Monique Samuels shares RHOP return, Chris Samuels split and writing her new book | Virtual Reali-Tea
She is a person who I cut off along with my ex-husband while we were still married. So, she was spreading all kinds of rumors saying that she was having an affair with Chris years ago. Is she so correct? Yes. Yes. Virtual reality. All right. Monnique Samuels from the Real Housewives of PTOIC. It is such a joy to welcome you to our studio. It’s such a joy to have you back on Bravo. Thank you. Oh my god. to be back. It’s so beautiful. You look so radiant and the show is so much better and brighter because you’re back on it. Oh, thank you. And like honestly like you are such a light on the show. Like I just love seeing you in this element of yours. Like you just seem so happy and yourself. Does it feel that way too? Yeah. I mean it’s it’s it’s amazing coming back into it because so many people have said that that I’m like what was I like before? Do you know what you were amazing before but there is a vibe shift. It’s like you’re the same person but it’s like a weight is lifted off your shoulders. 300 lb. Yes. Okay. So, do you feel do you feel like you are a different person without Chris Samuels as your husband? Absolutely. Absolutely. Going through this whole healing journey after divorce. Divorce changes you already. Yeah. Right. But then add in reality TV and people you know having their open judgments and they’re I went hermit mode. I went in I lost friends. I lost family. But it was okay. That’s what divorce does. It helps you to shed. And once I accepted the shedding, life got so much better for me. And I was able to really like work on myself and start to do some shadow work and do that inner healing. And it I mean, everybody says the same thing. So I’m like, okay, it must have worked because I’m like, but I feel really good. And I do. I also think it was so interesting. I think it was a few episodes ago, you were kind of almost making a joke about it, but you’re like, I stayed in my rush because I was fighting with you all so much to let out my aggression. And then you’re kind of like, “Oh, with the show having the moment not being on the show, did it give you time to reflect and be like, “Oh, this is actually not my life is not how I want to be living it.” Yeah. It was almost like, and I told them the first time that I thought like, uh, I don’t know if this is working anymore. My daughter was 6 months old. Guess what? I started filming Housewives when she was 8 months old. It almost like put all of our issues on pause. I see. And then once I left the show, some time went by. I did another show, right? more time went by and it was just like, “Oh my god, the same issues from all those years ago are still here.” Do you know what I found? Really interesting is when you were very candid with the girls talking about it. It was essentially a sex test that you did with Chris to see how he really felt about you. I I thought it was a very vulnerable moment for you and I applaud you for sharing that information. Did you hear from Chris about that? Have you heard from Chris at all about what he has seen so far on Housewives? Is he paying attention? Is he keeping tabs? Oh, you better believe he’s paying attention and keeping tabs. But the thing about Chris and I, we are not in a good space. Like we’re the the co-arenting is a nightmare. Um he he won’t ever come to me about anything that he sees. He goes through people and he has them do their bidding for him. So I’ll get messages back. I’ll get it’s very sneaky. It’s very shady. It’s very him. It’s on brand for him. And unfortunately because I had maintained such a good front and image back then it’s unbelievable for most people, you know. So like even with the last episode where they’re like calling him, he said, “I don’t know.” Most people are looking like, “Oh, he’s not trying to be in women’s business. He doesn’t even know about it.” He knows about it because Cookie’s the mouthpiece. So she’s doing his bidding. And you saw even in earlier scenes, oh, he’s texting me. Oh, why is he talking to her? because he knows she’s going to run her mouth and do his bidding and then he can play innocent and say, “I don’t know what y’all talking about. I’ve seen this a thousand times.” So, what was your interpretation of his response on the phone call with Shereice? Because it seemed like everyone was like, “Oh, he he shut it down.” Like he he there was he that didn’t happen. Do you think there was weird communication between Chris and Stacy and Cookie? Like what do you think now with Reflection and probably after gathering more information? Well, there was definitely communication with Stacy because she showed it to me. She literally said that he she showed me a message from like way before I even signed my contract where he was texting her asking, “Hey, I heard my name’s being talked about on the show.” So, they were already communicating. So, why would they not communicate later on if they were I think it was so one-sided because she made it seem like it was one-sided because Ashley did pose the question of, “Well, she could have gone in and deleted messages, right? Maybe they’re fraudulent receipts. Do you think that they were real receipts?” Like how do you do you think it was the communication was was real and it was interesting because I wasn’t at the previous events for Jazelle’s you know her 10 million download party. So when she when I’m watching it in real time she said she didn’t have his number and that’s why Sharice called him. So now here I am in my presence sub watching everything unfold and then the next scene is us, you know, sitting down having dinner together and then she pulls her phone out and says, “This is when he’s, you know, we know each other socially and here’s what he’s been sending to me and all the text messages, you know, scrolling.” And I’m like, “Back then it didn’t.” It was just like, “Okay, whatever. Y’all are talking.” But watching it, I’m like, “Wait, so you lied because you said you didn’t have his number, but then you showed me that he was texting you and y’all had been communicating even before I came around.” It was just weird. It’s like, why are we lying? It almost feels like there’s a lot of people maybe dancing around the truth because I when Wendy uh was saying that she has like the culprits or the suspects or who the we could be, I kind of was like, why do I feel it’s everybody, right? I know. You know what I mean? Or there’s so many players in the situation. And also they might even be accidentally doing it cuz like if like say like Jazelle’s talking to Sharice and Kay’s talking to Cookie and if they’re both running back to Chris cuz I was kind of like why is Shereice so comfortable calling Chris immediately? Like I was sort of like I’m like in what world or would you just be like ring and him to answer? Right. And then she said I’m filming and you proceeded to continue to talk. So anybody’s stupid you know? So, it’s like a lot’s been going on and I’m just like, look, I just came back to show where I am and I’m in peace and here’s my book and here’s my oils and it’s like, what is all of this business? It’s great. What I do love though is how much grace you immediately extended to Stacy regardless of what the situation was regarding Chris. You greeted her with a hug when you guys met up for dinner. You were so kind to her. I just feel like most housewives wouldn’t move like that. What was behind you choosing kindness for Stacy who allegedly dated your exhusband? Cuz a lot of the girls aren’t being so kind to her, right? But like I look at it like this. Say for instance they are dating and say for instance they’re getting closer. Why would I not want to have a good relationship with her? This is a person that can potentially be around my children. You are so evolved Monique. Like it is crazy. But yeah, but that’s how I looked at it. And I’m just like, if this is a thing that’s happening, you know, and it becomes serious, then I don’t want to butttheads with her. Like, anybody knows when women can get along, that’s when the kids are happiest, right? So, my my everything that I do is always going to go back to my children and making them happy, you know? So, that comes first and foremost. And I I don’t have any qualms with her if withever who she’s dating. I don’t care who he’s dating. H how do you feel cuz with that cuz a lot of people do feel like this season it’s all the ladies just finding a reason for Stacy to annoy them and then just going at her. Did it feel like that while you guys were in it? Um when by the time I came along it didn’t feel like that because apparently when I talked to her in that moment I shut down whatever was continuing to keep like issues in as far as I know with Stacy in her direction. But I feel like a lot of heat is on Stacy because Stacy don’t care. She really does. She doesn’t care. It’s magical, too. She’s great TV. She really is. I enjoy watching her. She’s funny. She’s beautiful. And it’s just funny to watch how she They make these big deals and they come at her with from little stuff to major stuff. And she’s just like, “Okay, all right.” So, or just like Yeah. And when she pointed her finger and kept pointing her finger, that was crazy. You really love to see that cuz she was pointing at Cookie, right? What? You really don’t you don’t like Cookie. We don’t It’s not that I don’t like her. I don’t trust her. And she is a person who I cut off along with my ex-husband while we were still married. So, she was spreading all kinds of rumors saying that she was having an affair with Chris years ago. Is she so? Yes. Yes. And she she told he’s in the cookie jar. Wait, she she made that up. There there was no truth to it. So, she was telling people that she was having an affair with with my ex-husband, who was my husband at the time, and she said the only reason he was staying is because of the kids. She would tell people these things. And then we found out me and him called her, put her on speaker phone, and we said, “Listen, we’re not fooling with you. We done just we just had a crazy situation with a former friend, and the people who have told us this are credible people. We don’t know why you’re saying this, but we’re done.” So to my surprise, I come around and they’re like, “Yeah, Chris and Cookie.” I’m like, “Wait, what is happening?” Was it to you that he still messes with her? Yes. I was completely caught off guard and I did not know. I didn’t understand how this connection happened again. And then everybody’s well, like, why is Chris calling Cookie? Why? I don’t know. Do all the ladies know that that she did that? I told most of them. Cuz it’s kind of confusing how they would still then hold Cookie as this like trutht teller. They didn’t know until after. Yeah. So, they didn’t know until after because they were asking me like, “Well, what’s your issue with Cookie? Y’all used to be cool.” And I was like, “Okay, well, I’ll tell you what the issue is.” And I’m so confused as to why he is cool with all the people that I literally parted ways with years ago while we were still in the marriage who did things to both of us, right? You know, so it was just very interesting for me. And I’m coming in blind with all of this. So when they were asking about, you know, Cookie, I was like, I don’t trust her cuz she lies and I don’t trust him because he lies. And apparently Stacy lies too. So where’s the truth? Do you know what I found very interesting is at the end of the scene where you guys all got together where you were talking to Stacy about the situation with Chris, you said like, “You guys don’t know the half of it. You don’t know what I really went through.” Can you is there anything you can clarify about your time with Chris and what people may not know or understand about how bad things were? Yes. And I go into very full detail in my book. Okay. All right. So, let’s talk about it. Love letters from versions of myself. First of all, I love the cover. It’s beautiful. So, we open up about what we went through in our marriage in this book. Yes, I do. I open up what I went through. And most importantly, if you ever read any books on alchemy, they give you the whole process when it comes to your awakening, your spiritual awakening, when you have that aha moment, and what typically happens after. So in my book I give you every stage of that but I also give you an example. The example is me. So I’ll give you different things that I went through whether it was during my childhood or during my marriage or postmarriage you know. So I give you all of the steps that I actually went through when it comes to transformation when you really start to go inward and you discover who you are. You face your shadows and the hardest part is when you start losing people that you thought were there for you but then you realize that they were never there for you. They were there to get benefits from you or to use you. And sometimes you can be sleeping with your own damn enemy, you know? So, and it’s a real thing. But I also show gratitude. If it wasn’t for my marriage, I would have never had this awakening moment. I would have never set boundaries. I would have never found myself and really started to look at what I deserve. I’m like, I’m a good person. I have some issues just like everybody else, but overall, I really do think that I deserve to be loved properly. Yeah. You know, were there parts of you that resisted doing that work to go in that deep? Cuz it’s very scary and it kind of like pulls the rug out from under you. You know what I mean? Like how what was the process like for you before saying, “Okay, I need to do this work to become my better self.” Yeah. It was scary because I knew after I started doing the work, I knew that my relationship would dwindle because you can go through a spiritual journey with a person, with your person, with your partner, with your spouse, whomever, but you don’t have to be growing at the same rate. But you both have to be growing and you both have to want to do the inner work. And once I started seeing that that wasn’t an option for my then husband, I was like, “Okay, I’m still going to take this journey and I just I’m going just hope for the best.” Wow. And sometimes when we ask God to start removing what doesn’t serve us sometimes that’s the very people that we put into high positions, whether it’s spouse, parents, you know. So that’s what I went through and I don’t regret it because I have a sense of peace that I’ve never experienced in my entire life. It seems like it. And so you started doing the work during your marriage. Was Chris encouraging of it or supportive of it at first or was he like ple because I don’t I don’t know how he felt about you sort of going on this enlight enlightenment journey. Was he intimidated by it? Was he scared? It was a lot of push back. It was very like you know like oh good for you at first but once it started to affect him the boundaries started to affect him then it was like wait what are you doing? You know, I remember the very first trip I took, a solo trip for my birthday and I went to Arizona and I went to a meditative resort and I said, “I’m going by myself.” It was my first trip by myself since being married and having children. And I said, “I really need this trip because I need to not have everybody else’s voices all around me. I really just need to connect with myself and with God.” And as I was leaving for the trip, I felt so good cuz I was like, I’m doing this for me. I made sure that the kids were set, the nanny was there, everybody was in place, food was where it needed to be, everybody’s good. And as I was walking out the door, I had my car service there. As I was walking out the door, I said, “Do not call me unless the house is burning down.” And even if the house is burning down, call 911. I said, “I need a complete break.” And the look he gave me was like, he was so upset that I was so happy about doing this trip for myself. And I remember getting into the car and I remember thinking to myself, I am going to have a great trip regardless of what he has to feel about it because old me even then would have felt down that he was down or upset that I was leaving and it would have ruined my whole trip. It would have put me in a mindset where I wouldn’t have been able to enjoy myself. And I said, “Forget that.” I left and it was amazing for me. It’s the It’s the place where and I talk about it in my book as well. It’s the place where I learned boundaries. And when I came back, h it was transformative. Did he call you during the trip? Did he bother you? I would I would check in on FaceTime during certain times of the day. And then cuz I was actually no phone like at this resort. Yeah. You turn your phones off and so I would check in in the morning, make sure everybody’s good, and then I would turn my phone off and put it in their little like they have these little lock box and I would be without my phone, no social media. I was completely disconnected for 5 days. Wow, that is amazing. I love that. And I guess like that is the type of resort and the piece I now I get why you and Jazelle met up so quickly. Well, it seemed quickly on the episode, but we sat down for a long time. Okay. Yeah. And I think that we both were in two totally different places in life. Um, we both actually experienced loss. You know, divorce is a loss. She lost her father. It puts you in a different space when you’re mourning something, you know, and and you are able to kind of see past what really doesn’t matter and you it’s like I’m not that person anymore. So, let’s just move forward after we hash it out. Not letting you off the hook. We going to talk about it as the same for her with me and then let’s start let’s reset. I feel it really is a good reset because even though of course she loves to be reasonably shady. The way she talks about you in scenes you’re not in. I’ve been loving the season cuz she’s very like I love how open Mon’nique is being. I love having her back and everything like that. It seems like you guys really are moving to a beautiful place. I hope so. Yes. Does it feel that way? It does. Yeah, it does. It feels very genuine. It does. And I’m grateful for it because sometimes when you leave in a certain position, especially the beef that her and I had, you know, like that whole viral moment with the binder and everything else, it’s like you cannot even it it can’t go away, you know? And I’m so glad it hasn’t cuz every time it comes up in my algorithm, it’s so good. Oh my god. But I’m I’m glad you guys are in a better place. It’s crazy cuz I when I see it, I cringe. It’s so I do. Oh, I scream. I laugh. I hoot and holler. I show my husband. I say, “We got to watch this one more time. It was so good.” And I mean before we let you go, of course there’s so much going on in PTOIC with Wendy right now. Are you kind of a shoulder to lean on for her? Are you giving her her space? Because when we caught up with Stacy, she said that she’s kind of encouraging her a lot and being there for her. But I’m kind of curious where you are falling with. Yeah, I talked to Wendy. Wendy and I got together with the kids. And I’m all all here for Wendy and for her husband and her whole family. They’re a beautiful family and people go through things and sometimes it’s it’s very unfortunate when you’re on this platform and everything gets put out there and you don’t hear from the actual party. You don’t hear their side. You just hear all of the negativity and we honestly don’t know what happened and that’s their business. It’s their fight and I don’t want to judge them on something that I don’t have all the details to and even if I did, what does it concern of me, you know? So, I would love for people to just kind of like give them some space while they navigate this. And I know because they are reality TV stars, they will share when they’re ready to share. You know, you’re cool with Wendy. I’m curious if you’re currently cool with K. Kiana. How do you feel about Kiana? Yeah, I love Kiana. K is so I We’re big fans. We love her so much. K. We are big fans. The only reason I bring that up is because I don’t know if you saw, but Chanel Ayan from the Real Housewives of Dubai. Yeah, she was doing interviews on the carpet for Bravo and she was recently asked on Cynthia and Crystal’s podcast who was the rudest Bravo celebrity at Bravo and she mentioned Kiana. She said she was rude and she was like, “Oh, she thinks she’s Beyonce.” I just would love to know your reaction to Chanel calling her rude and saying she thinks she’s Beyonce. I think that was a complete misjudgment because Kay is so sweet, but Kay owns a med spa and I feel like she might have had some, you know, some little injections that had her face just snatched cuz honey was snatched. The face card at Bravo was actually insane. She was so good. Maybe she just couldn’t smile. There you go. That’s what I thought. I was like, cuz I I was with Kay the whole time. Me and her did certain um we did certain events together. Yeah. And we sat next to each other on the PTOIC panel. Kay is cool as a fan. She really is. I know. It’s my because Chanel said her and Katie Janella were the two meanest people and I was like Katie Janella. I was like those are the two sweetest. We love Katie Janella. Did you meet Katie Janella from Orange County? My thing is this. If you’re always expecting people to kiss your ass, you going to think anybody that doesn’t kiss your ass is a bad person. So maybe it’s the expectation from the person that was there and not necessarily Kay. Cuz Kay is cool. Like she’s so sweet. She’s so cool and such a lovely time. She is. She is. But I feel like between the look, the face was snatched. So maybe she just didn’t have it in her to crack a smile for you. She was being advertising for her spot. This is Hey, I don’t have to smile at you. I’m just going to give you looks. And before we let you go, when is the book available? It’s available for pre-order December 7th on Samananiels.com. Oh my god. Yes. And then it’s going to officially be released on January 4th. Oh my god. Okay. New year, new book. It’s what everyone’s gonna read. This is like the perfect New Year’s resolution energy book to read. Yes. And you know what I love too? This is something I added towards the end because I didn’t want people to just read the book and have nothing to do or know how to do their process. At the end of each chapter, I have what’s called heartwork instead of homework. So I actually give you different prompts that you can ask yourself different questions and it really provokes some deep thought so that you can start taking the journey as well. So while you’re reading the book, you’re also on the journey. So it’s very interactive. I love that. Oh yes. I really I know it’s going to change lives. I know it’s going to push people into a space where they’re demanding the respect that they deserve and they’re loving themselves and there is nothing wrong with that. Oh my gosh. Yes. And it’s also relationship too cuz if you work on yourself, you’re going to attract somebody that’s vibrating at the same frequency. That’s ain’t dating. Okay. My Mr. Right is just going to show up. Yes. Knocking on the door. Oh my god. But thank you for writing that book and thank you for stopping by, Monique. We love you. Thank you. I love y’all too. It’s so good seeing y’all again. A
“Real Housewives of Potomac” star Monique Samuels stopped by the Page Six studio to chat with “Virtual Reali-Tea” co-hosts Danny Murphy and Evan Real about her epic return to the Bravo franchise after taking several seasons off. Monique unpacked more details about her split from now-ex-husband Chris Samuels, admitting that their co-parenting dynamic is a “nightmare.” She also shared behind-the-scenes tea about filming the latest installment of the reality show — and teased more drama to be unpacked in her forthcoming book, “Love Letters from Versions of Myself: A Memoir of Self-Discovery, Transformation & Healing.” Check out the full unedited interview!
“The Real Housewives of Potomac” airs Sundays at 8 p.m. ET on Bravo with new episodes available to stream the next day on Peacock.
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20 Comments
"Once I accepted the shedding." TESTIFY.
Cool as a fan 😂😂😂😂
Stacey entrains me because she is either ice cold or clueless
monique is SO hot. jesus
Great interview!
i want some of her peace please!!!
Kay is too much at times. She's involved in things that are just none of her business. She has her own stuff she needs to work on
Monique, l hear you! It hits right back home 😊.
Yes Monique ❤
I love Monique ❤️ Her positive and honest vibe, energy, and peace are unmatched
Please do not talk about with this disaster no way can you bring her and nobody want to ring nobody wants to buy a book. Tell her to find a job go to work.
She’s drop dead gorgeous
She is so beautiful in n out.
And that’s why you NEVER protect a man’s image because when you’re ready to leave no one will believe what you said since you always LIED FOR HIM. I’m glad she’s back and hopefully she doesn’t fall for Ashley setting her up to fight again.
I love her but cover up girl. Your kids are going to see this
Loved Monique before, she is definitely in my top 3 housewives of all time x so glad she’s back x
Love the Binder chronicles 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
STACEY LIES TOO. THANK U
Monique has circled the wagon after putting the reality shows down! Now she is back, why? Need the $$$$$$$. Don’t believe anything she says, sorry!
I was very excited when I heard Monique was coming back. I love watching her and love her authentic approach to life 🤎🌻