‘The Reality Is Avatar 3 Did OK but as a Cultural Force, It’s Exhausted’ — James Cameron Reportedly Discussing Ways to Make Avatar 4 and 5 Cheaper and Shorter
‘The Reality Is Avatar 3 Did OK but as a Cultural Force, It’s Exhausted’ — James Cameron Reportedly Discussing Ways to Make Avatar 4 and 5 Cheaper and Shorter
Its a sad state of affairs where a movie can make over 1 billion dollars and thats just “OK”. Thats an insane amount of money. The whole industry is fucked if thats where they’re at.
FireZord25 on
A good writer would compensate well for downscale in other areas, like the visuals. Just saying as someone who didn’t hate these movies.
ProgrammerOk1400 on
As a cultural force? Aside from the FX the whole series is utterly forgettable.
rysker6 on
The problem is he’s dragged this on for almost two decades
rhunter99 on
I hope 4 and 5 get made
Beforemath on
Try making a new story. Go to a new planet
Cool-Tangelo6548 on
Make them more interesting. The stories are 2 basic. And each film follows the same formula.
youareprobnotugly on
Perhaps tell a new story? Like wtf
AndrewH73333 on
Have Avatar 5 take place in a modern city. That will make it cheaper to film.
allisgray on
Hire the WNBA and paint em blue or is that what already happens???
Mysterious-Wasabi103 on
I will never understand his obsession with making Avatar. Why do you need 5 chapters of the same tired ass story?
austinbarrow on
Maybe because it was the same movie as the sequel, which was the same movie as the original, with slightly different-looking, blue creatures?
THEbaddestOFtheASSES on
If Jimmy had invested more time into crafting the story as he did for the technical aspects of these films maybe he wouldn’t be running into this issue now instead of later.
simpleflavors1 on
Then don’t make 5 movies wtf
Grizzybaby1985 on
Just bin it figured he would have got bored with it by now
MattyBeatz on
It’s never been culturally relevant IMO. Sells a ton of movie tickets but that seems about it. You never see merch out in the wild, people don’t dress up like characters on Halloween or at ComicCons, there’s no video games, IP licenses to Lego, trading cards, animated spinoffs for kids, or things like that. Disney is rethinking making an immersive world at its parks, like Galaxy’s Edge or Wizarding World of Harry Potter.
The fact that all 3 movies made over a billion dollars surprises me. But I think the biggest error was dropping 3 right after 2. Doesn’t need to be a decade between movies but there was enough time between 1 and 2 that the tech got a chance to really evolve and people wanted the experience again.
Monkfich on
We’re all going to be at a different stage in our lives if he really manages to get to film number 7. That’s maybe 12-15 years away.
James Cameron might want to crack on with them – and make them quicker and shorter – simply to make it more likely that he’ll get to see them finish.
darkestb4thadawn on
*Avatar 3* felt like the deleted scenes of *Avatar 2*. So yeah, he’s not wrong.
Vundal on
It doesn’t help that the movie plots are uninspired retreads of better stories and movies.
OrkidingMe on
Does he HAVE ago make the other sequels? One movie was enough
vperretta on
Start by writing a good story. Tends to sort it self out from there.
Ponchorello7 on
Cultural force? The movie’s are wildly successful, but their cultural impact seems to be that they come around every once in a while, impress everyone on a technical level and are subsequently forgotten.
Sad-Juice-732 on
Note that he didn’t say “more interesting”
No_Team_6326 on
My kids forced me to watch this film with them a few days ago. Truth be told, if you turn your brain off, the three hours go by quite quickly and there are some good set pieces here and there. But it’s now been about 10 days or so since we watched and I could not remember a single thing about it. That’s your Avatar experience in a nutshell. Pretty, but so, so forgettable because there really is nothing memorable about them.
dstar-dstar on
The movie does so well for the visuals of 3D as it is really the only movie made that does the 3D technology right. Most people love 3D but just not for every movie or everyday use say for sports etc.
I would be interested to see if he came out with one movie in 3D a year in a different genre if it would still pull in the same type of revenue if people new they were going to get something unique and visually appealing that is only worth it to watch in theaters.
I love Avatar in 3D but do not care to watch it at home or even really care about the plot as the story is just ok but the visual world is amazing.
Hey_Giant_Loser on
It was never a “cultural force” it was always gimmick. And a weaksauce one at that
saibjai on
Bro, you always introduce time travel in the fourth episode, and then you do multiverse in the fifth. Duh, james cameron.
CrissBliss on
Do an animated series for Disney Plus
Z6NERey on
I didn’t see it. But I didn’t love the second one either. How was it?
Vitalalternate on
Avatar 1 and 2 are literal copy and paste of the same movie. Using the same characters even after they died. Of course it is exhausted.
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Invest in miniatures and some costumes
Its a sad state of affairs where a movie can make over 1 billion dollars and thats just “OK”. Thats an insane amount of money. The whole industry is fucked if thats where they’re at.
A good writer would compensate well for downscale in other areas, like the visuals. Just saying as someone who didn’t hate these movies.
As a cultural force? Aside from the FX the whole series is utterly forgettable.
The problem is he’s dragged this on for almost two decades
I hope 4 and 5 get made
Try making a new story. Go to a new planet
Make them more interesting. The stories are 2 basic. And each film follows the same formula.
Perhaps tell a new story? Like wtf
Have Avatar 5 take place in a modern city. That will make it cheaper to film.
Hire the WNBA and paint em blue or is that what already happens???
I will never understand his obsession with making Avatar. Why do you need 5 chapters of the same tired ass story?
Maybe because it was the same movie as the sequel, which was the same movie as the original, with slightly different-looking, blue creatures?
If Jimmy had invested more time into crafting the story as he did for the technical aspects of these films maybe he wouldn’t be running into this issue now instead of later.
Then don’t make 5 movies wtf
Just bin it figured he would have got bored with it by now
It’s never been culturally relevant IMO. Sells a ton of movie tickets but that seems about it. You never see merch out in the wild, people don’t dress up like characters on Halloween or at ComicCons, there’s no video games, IP licenses to Lego, trading cards, animated spinoffs for kids, or things like that. Disney is rethinking making an immersive world at its parks, like Galaxy’s Edge or Wizarding World of Harry Potter.
The fact that all 3 movies made over a billion dollars surprises me. But I think the biggest error was dropping 3 right after 2. Doesn’t need to be a decade between movies but there was enough time between 1 and 2 that the tech got a chance to really evolve and people wanted the experience again.
We’re all going to be at a different stage in our lives if he really manages to get to film number 7. That’s maybe 12-15 years away.
James Cameron might want to crack on with them – and make them quicker and shorter – simply to make it more likely that he’ll get to see them finish.
*Avatar 3* felt like the deleted scenes of *Avatar 2*. So yeah, he’s not wrong.
It doesn’t help that the movie plots are uninspired retreads of better stories and movies.
Does he HAVE ago make the other sequels? One movie was enough
Start by writing a good story. Tends to sort it self out from there.
Cultural force? The movie’s are wildly successful, but their cultural impact seems to be that they come around every once in a while, impress everyone on a technical level and are subsequently forgotten.
Note that he didn’t say “more interesting”
My kids forced me to watch this film with them a few days ago. Truth be told, if you turn your brain off, the three hours go by quite quickly and there are some good set pieces here and there. But it’s now been about 10 days or so since we watched and I could not remember a single thing about it. That’s your Avatar experience in a nutshell. Pretty, but so, so forgettable because there really is nothing memorable about them.
The movie does so well for the visuals of 3D as it is really the only movie made that does the 3D technology right. Most people love 3D but just not for every movie or everyday use say for sports etc.
I would be interested to see if he came out with one movie in 3D a year in a different genre if it would still pull in the same type of revenue if people new they were going to get something unique and visually appealing that is only worth it to watch in theaters.
I love Avatar in 3D but do not care to watch it at home or even really care about the plot as the story is just ok but the visual world is amazing.
It was never a “cultural force” it was always gimmick. And a weaksauce one at that
Bro, you always introduce time travel in the fourth episode, and then you do multiverse in the fifth. Duh, james cameron.
Do an animated series for Disney Plus
I didn’t see it. But I didn’t love the second one either. How was it?
Avatar 1 and 2 are literal copy and paste of the same movie. Using the same characters even after they died. Of course it is exhausted.