Elizabeth Banks Says ‘I Don’t Understand the 53% of White Ladies Who Voted’ for Trump and ‘More of Us’ Should Be Like Effie From ‘Hunger Games’: ‘Become Revolutionaries’ and Oppose Fascism
Elizabeth Banks Says ‘I Don’t Understand the 53% of White Ladies Who Voted’ for Trump and ‘More of Us’ Should Be Like Effie From ‘Hunger Games’: ‘Become Revolutionaries’ and Oppose Fascism
Because their class position means that they will continue living comfortable lives, unaffected by the policies of the Trump admin.
Yes, their identity as white women does affect their politics, but so does their class position, which people always seem to ignore when discussing the politics people have.
Professional-Fig6513 on
There’s a great video by Britt Hartley about why women remain loyal to authoritarian patriarchy.
I mean, talk to enough white women and you’ll understand why the majority of them voted for trump. White women have a lot more in common with white men than they would like to admit
Good-Bodybuilder-985 on
She is right. As a white woman, what the fuck?! I’m continually disgusted by my race and sex.
Stupoxi on
White Women have historically always voted in lockstep with White Men so I’m not holding my breath for them to suddenly vote against their material comfort and security.
talor_swib on
Effie had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the revolution. I think the rest of us can do better than that. Lol
-this_bitch- on
Honestly most I suspect did it just because it wasn’t blue. That was enough for them whether we like it or not.
I lived in Maine a couple years and the ongoing joke is how much people hate change. Well, guess what party wanted change? Republicans ran their whole campaign on “back to how things were” and people like the familiar. Familiar might mean racism, lack of DEI, and stripping women of rights, but people would rather stay with what’s most cozy for themselves than what is better for society and what moves us forward as a country.
BarnacleGooseIsLoose on
A lot of white mothers voted for Trump because of the noise around “white men suck”. They were afraid of what the venomous lesbian left would do to their sons’ rights. The vitriol was directed at all white men – not just old white men. It mattered more to the final result than people will admit.
Eunomia28 on
I agree with her about White ladies, but Effie was hardly a revolutionary. She was one of those “liberals” who still supported oppressive systems (like your typical centrist Democrat).
Florida__Man__ on
You’re not a revolutionary voting for one of the two entrenched power political parties lmfao
MimiLaRue2 on
WHAT? Does she not understand Effie’s whole character and story??? Maybe she forgot?
Effie was 100% on board with the Capitol and the whole set up. She was the face of it. Normalizes it. Romanticized it. Promotes it for a living.
Only after she was exposed to more information, spent time with Katniss and Peetah, listened to them and their perspective did she finally get it.
DingbatGnW on
There’s literally nothing even remotely revolutionary about Kamala.
Cabbages24ADollar on
Trump voters the alternative was better you failed.
Spare_Layer_1069 on
Well just imagine who a lot of those women are married to, they probably vote what their husband votes
totally-jag on
DaileyFlosser39 on
Amen, Elizabeth.
sagatsaturn94 on
They’re white and rather sacrifice their own interest to preserve the white supremacy. Can’t let blacks, browns or anyone else have their slice of cake. As someone here said, talk to enough of them and you’ll see why.
mrshelenroper on
A) they aren’t that smart and lack critical thinking skills
B) most of them have been indoctrinated since birth into either evangelical white Christian nationalism or anti-women Catholic BS
C) they are male-centered, bigoted and homophobic
TheYellowFringe on
It’s been said about self-racism but I’d take it further.
There’s the scope of *pretending* to be white or *wanting* to be white. Plenty of minorities who voted for Trump had some of this, I remember reports in California where Cubans and Vietnamese openly said that Trump wouldn’t do **anything** to them.
That Trump was going to harm just the “bad” migrants and illegals. But then these communities were hit by ICE and now they’re silent because there’s photographic and video evidence of them contradicting themselves.
Murky-Magician9475 on
Targeted digital advertising and campaigning, I guess. Digital privacy is basically gone, so marketing firms know how to pitch the right people into either buying into Trump, or at least not believing Harris would be better.
Ryan14304 on
My thinking with vets, union guys, active duty etc. some real stupid mfs in this country.
PleaseBeChillOnline on
I’m extremely jealous of anyone who was surprised by the white woman turnout for Trump or that he could have white LGBTQ supporters.
It suggest their anecdotal experiences with these groups has been largely positive. Good for them.
clib on
She doesn’t understand that fear and hate are powerful emotions and that are used to manipulate people regardless of gender? She doesn’t understand that propaganda works?
MiddayRendezvous on
At first, I didn’t read the headline properly, and I thought that Effie Trinket was a poor representative of rebellion because she wasn’t even a rebel in the book. But then I remembered that Elizabeth Banks WAS Effie. So, now it makes sense—at least from movie Effie’s POV.
Jomicja on
All she does is traffic in identity politics. So tiresome.
No_Mathematician6866 on
Many white women benefit from and participate in conservative power structures. I’m not sure why anyone would expect a majority of them to vote against that.
vmaldonado998 on
Americans bowing to would be authoritarians is so devastating. This country has the potential to be an incredible place full of diversity, freedom, and love. There’s so many talented people all over the country. So many who want to come here to share their talents. The best part about America has always been how pluralistic it is. America has its fair share of atrocities, but damn it I believe in the American people. We can do better than this administration’s thinly veiled bigotry. We can do better than hate each other.
XcRaZeD on
I was looking over voting stats yesterday and noticed that while Gen Z men are trending right, there is a bigger gap between Gen Z women and Millennial women than Gen Z men and Millennial men. (Across generations) Women ultimately had a larger impact on the vote, and it’s odd that Gen Z men are blamed despite that.
Gen Z women are *extremely* left-wing, and it showed when voting. So much so that it completely offset male Gen Z voting patterns, making Gen Z still a lot more left-wing on average.
Confident_Hunter7506 on
Actually it’s not surprising at all. These same women didn’t vote for Hillary. It’s not understandable but it isn’t surprising
Available-Guava5515 on
I always knew i liked her
AlwaysAlani on
Effie was a Capital loyalist until she had to stare the death that regime enacted in the face. Not exactly a folk hero revolutionary.
Status_Dark_6145 on
Tiny wife.
Elkburgher on
Rich woman doesnt understand, more at 11
Stefan_Vanderhoof on
110 years ago, there were Women’s Anti-Suffrage Societies. This is not new.
JeanParmesean70 on
They identify more as the Commander’s Wives
feelslikebuffy on
Trump gave people a license to be hateful. I think there are a lot more bad people in the world than we ever knew or would like to admit.
Fantastic_Object_762 on
The funny part is Effie from the Hunger Games (the books) is exactly like those 53% of white ladies who voted for Trump. She facilitated child murder for the sake of status, and only came to empathize with two of the kids *specifically* as opposed to being critical of the Hunger Games as a whole.
Georgington1776 on
White women have been riding in the passenger seat of the oppression machine for centuries. They birth these men, raise these men, marry these men, advise these men, and do a lot of their dirty work for them. They get the benefits and a lot of times get to live off of the spoils alone via nepotism, divorce, and widowship. What is this world we live in where white women are all of a sudden victims that get to play this role of a helpless also oppressed bystander? Honestly I’m surprised it was just 53%. I bet the real numbers are way higher.
Mysterious_Story_470 on
I hate when she uses pop culture references with a shallow understanding of the source material. Will never forget how she wrote an entire essay (pre-finale) about what a great role model Danearys Targaryen was. 😭
BootsyCalrissian on
Why does she think that women are exempt from being horrible, brainwashed, racist, classist people? They can be just as shitty as men, does she not realize this?
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It’s always someone else should do it, isn’t it?
I honestly don’t know how anyone could vote for him. But yeah, the women, minorities and LGBTQ are the most baffling.
>‘I Don’t Understand the 53% of White Ladies Who Voted’ For Trump
Proximity to power, probably. Also reading this just reminded me of this photo 🤢🤢
https://preview.redd.it/tw09knfjtdvg1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb52e946dafb030b21b3c78a9d423040f87d4cd6
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Because their class position means that they will continue living comfortable lives, unaffected by the policies of the Trump admin.
Yes, their identity as white women does affect their politics, but so does their class position, which people always seem to ignore when discussing the politics people have.
There’s a great video by Britt Hartley about why women remain loyal to authoritarian patriarchy.
https://youtu.be/GGDpQhGvbE8?si=0Ck91s3BRL7go5QG
I also don’t understand the 55% percent of men (all men) who voted for Trump.
[https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2024](https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2024)
I mean, talk to enough white women and you’ll understand why the majority of them voted for trump. White women have a lot more in common with white men than they would like to admit
She is right. As a white woman, what the fuck?! I’m continually disgusted by my race and sex.
White Women have historically always voted in lockstep with White Men so I’m not holding my breath for them to suddenly vote against their material comfort and security.
Effie had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the revolution. I think the rest of us can do better than that. Lol
Honestly most I suspect did it just because it wasn’t blue. That was enough for them whether we like it or not.
I lived in Maine a couple years and the ongoing joke is how much people hate change. Well, guess what party wanted change? Republicans ran their whole campaign on “back to how things were” and people like the familiar. Familiar might mean racism, lack of DEI, and stripping women of rights, but people would rather stay with what’s most cozy for themselves than what is better for society and what moves us forward as a country.
A lot of white mothers voted for Trump because of the noise around “white men suck”. They were afraid of what the venomous lesbian left would do to their sons’ rights. The vitriol was directed at all white men – not just old white men. It mattered more to the final result than people will admit.
I agree with her about White ladies, but Effie was hardly a revolutionary. She was one of those “liberals” who still supported oppressive systems (like your typical centrist Democrat).
You’re not a revolutionary voting for one of the two entrenched power political parties lmfao
WHAT? Does she not understand Effie’s whole character and story??? Maybe she forgot?
Effie was 100% on board with the Capitol and the whole set up. She was the face of it. Normalizes it. Romanticized it. Promotes it for a living.
Only after she was exposed to more information, spent time with Katniss and Peetah, listened to them and their perspective did she finally get it.
There’s literally nothing even remotely revolutionary about Kamala.
Trump voters the alternative was better you failed.
Well just imagine who a lot of those women are married to, they probably vote what their husband votes
Amen, Elizabeth.
They’re white and rather sacrifice their own interest to preserve the white supremacy. Can’t let blacks, browns or anyone else have their slice of cake. As someone here said, talk to enough of them and you’ll see why.
A) they aren’t that smart and lack critical thinking skills
B) most of them have been indoctrinated since birth into either evangelical white Christian nationalism or anti-women Catholic BS
C) they are male-centered, bigoted and homophobic
It’s been said about self-racism but I’d take it further.
There’s the scope of *pretending* to be white or *wanting* to be white. Plenty of minorities who voted for Trump had some of this, I remember reports in California where Cubans and Vietnamese openly said that Trump wouldn’t do **anything** to them.
That Trump was going to harm just the “bad” migrants and illegals. But then these communities were hit by ICE and now they’re silent because there’s photographic and video evidence of them contradicting themselves.
Targeted digital advertising and campaigning, I guess. Digital privacy is basically gone, so marketing firms know how to pitch the right people into either buying into Trump, or at least not believing Harris would be better.
My thinking with vets, union guys, active duty etc. some real stupid mfs in this country.
I’m extremely jealous of anyone who was surprised by the white woman turnout for Trump or that he could have white LGBTQ supporters.
It suggest their anecdotal experiences with these groups has been largely positive. Good for them.
She doesn’t understand that fear and hate are powerful emotions and that are used to manipulate people regardless of gender? She doesn’t understand that propaganda works?
At first, I didn’t read the headline properly, and I thought that Effie Trinket was a poor representative of rebellion because she wasn’t even a rebel in the book. But then I remembered that Elizabeth Banks WAS Effie. So, now it makes sense—at least from movie Effie’s POV.
All she does is traffic in identity politics. So tiresome.
Many white women benefit from and participate in conservative power structures. I’m not sure why anyone would expect a majority of them to vote against that.
Americans bowing to would be authoritarians is so devastating. This country has the potential to be an incredible place full of diversity, freedom, and love. There’s so many talented people all over the country. So many who want to come here to share their talents. The best part about America has always been how pluralistic it is. America has its fair share of atrocities, but damn it I believe in the American people. We can do better than this administration’s thinly veiled bigotry. We can do better than hate each other.
I was looking over voting stats yesterday and noticed that while Gen Z men are trending right, there is a bigger gap between Gen Z women and Millennial women than Gen Z men and Millennial men. (Across generations) Women ultimately had a larger impact on the vote, and it’s odd that Gen Z men are blamed despite that.
Gen Z women are *extremely* left-wing, and it showed when voting. So much so that it completely offset male Gen Z voting patterns, making Gen Z still a lot more left-wing on average.
Actually it’s not surprising at all. These same women didn’t vote for Hillary. It’s not understandable but it isn’t surprising
I always knew i liked her
Effie was a Capital loyalist until she had to stare the death that regime enacted in the face. Not exactly a folk hero revolutionary.
Tiny wife.
Rich woman doesnt understand, more at 11
110 years ago, there were Women’s Anti-Suffrage Societies. This is not new.
They identify more as the Commander’s Wives
Trump gave people a license to be hateful. I think there are a lot more bad people in the world than we ever knew or would like to admit.
The funny part is Effie from the Hunger Games (the books) is exactly like those 53% of white ladies who voted for Trump. She facilitated child murder for the sake of status, and only came to empathize with two of the kids *specifically* as opposed to being critical of the Hunger Games as a whole.
White women have been riding in the passenger seat of the oppression machine for centuries. They birth these men, raise these men, marry these men, advise these men, and do a lot of their dirty work for them. They get the benefits and a lot of times get to live off of the spoils alone via nepotism, divorce, and widowship. What is this world we live in where white women are all of a sudden victims that get to play this role of a helpless also oppressed bystander? Honestly I’m surprised it was just 53%. I bet the real numbers are way higher.
I hate when she uses pop culture references with a shallow understanding of the source material. Will never forget how she wrote an entire essay (pre-finale) about what a great role model Danearys Targaryen was. 😭
Why does she think that women are exempt from being horrible, brainwashed, racist, classist people? They can be just as shitty as men, does she not realize this?