What Natalie Portman Learned About Ballet on Black Swan #shorts #natalieportman #blackswan #ballet

    🩰 Natalie Portman says training for Black Swan showed her how ballet mixes intense discipline with a strange childlike quality

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    1. I’m sure Natalie especially would notice something like this, especially after being in Leon the Professional and getting a lot more unwanted attention from grown ass men from it.

    2. Apparently, those with hypermobility syndromes like ehlers-danlos are overrepresented among ballet dancers because they "look" the right way when they're young and have greater range of movement in childhood

      The problem is that the symptoms really set in just as the dancers are in the main part of their career

    3. I get the feeling that women are not respected in sports and the arts like men are. They don’t have to put up with this obsession with their body or what they were. Gymnasts, long jump, volleyball players trying to get shorts so they don’t have to worry about mishaps with their uniform. It’s a shame we can’t choose what we feel comfortable wearing or to be respected for our art, effort and not our look.

    4. Infintilazation of dancers? You all been infintilazated by social media, cartoons, and anime way harder and is greater numbers than the peak performers of Ballet. Relax social wokies

    5. Eating disorders and mental health issues are rampant within ballet even in teenagers. It’s really upsetting what we’re doing to our children.

    6. I mean it could also be that the majority of company dancers are fairly young. Like between 16 and 22 type of young. A lot of instructors are like in their 60s so it’s pretty reasonable that an old person would refer to young adults as ā€œgirlsā€. Idk as a dancer I feel more infantalized by the outside media that treats ballet as a childish pink and ribbons pursuit that is only valuable in its aesthetics. It’s incredibly difficult and is much more nuanced than the cutesy aspects. In the studio we’re in a feminine space that’s dominated by very young people that are often children so we tend to take on a young and feminine mannerism. No one forces or influences us to act that way it’s just the effect of being surrounded by young women. Honestly I find it wonderful because I don’t feel pressured to ā€œgrow upā€ or be more masculine in a lot of ways. We can find joy in the freedom of being a little childish and feminine sweet because we grew up in a space where people won’t judge you or try to put you down for it.

    7. Most of the scenes shown her dancing are actually a professional ballerina that Portman and the director intentionally erased from public knowledge and didn’t credit

    8. My cousin was a professional ballet dancer, she was that ballet shape. But then she took a longer holiday one year she was still training 4 hours a day, but not also putting on shows and she grew a lot curvier.
      She went backand was criticized for her breasts, and ended up getting breast reduction surgery

    9. Infantilization is the act of treating an adult or capable person as if they are a child, stripping them of autonomy, agency, and responsibility. It involves undermining an individual's competence through overprotection, micromanagement, or condescending behavior, often leading to low self-esteem and dependency
      i had to look this up, hope it helps

    10. Ballet at the Paris Opera was all children, actual girls, who were prostitutes after shows for wealthy male patrons. It was built to be this way and it's disgusting

    11. I mean, they're creating lines with their bodies, so of course they can't be normal plump or overweight, they have to be long and slim or it ruins the lines. That's just ballet. It's not like requiring slim dancers is inherently some great misogynistic injustice. Now the way they're pushed to be dangerously underweight – that is.

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