Sophia Bush and Joseph Gordon-Levitt continue to address being on Dialog conference list

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White people.

I feel like she’s defending herself pretty well?

Feels kind of silly to be raging at people who’ve been publicly active for the left for literally a decade plus each for being on a conference list. like maybe we could all pitchfork at the epstein list first then circle back later if there’s still time.

Sophia Bush posting an explanation and follow up comments ,all just in her stories, feels like she’s hoping it’ll just be a blip on everyone’s radar and it’ll just disappear.

She’s also notorious for being pretty self righteous and these messages come off that way 100%. She’s been posting about AI and needing to be involved with it more in the past year, going to conferences and pushing this women for AI grift, while completely ignoring how horrible AI and the subsequent data centers are for the environment (something she has frequently talked about in the past.)

I hate when people say don’t be mad at this thing when these other terrible things are going on. People can be annoyed trump and JD Vance are ruining our country and also be pissed she’s a hypocrite, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

Also it’s all fuck Elon Musk but she posted her original statement and actually replied to people on X so again, hypocrite.

Probably an unpopular opinion but for the work she’s advocating for, I feel like its inevitable that you’re going to engage with shitty people. I think to get the message across you unfortunately need to face the exact people who are financing and building the tech and it probably seems useless but if there are people who are willing to engage then I dont see how thats a loss? Unless I’ve missed something, I dont see how her being at that conference is an endorsement for Peter Thiel.

What is going on? What dialog?! Someone give me the deets

It feels to me they’re both missing the point that the GP is done with backdoor deals and lack of transparency around the elite who supposedly advocate on behalf of the non elite. Your class is no longer trusted and the barrier you need to clear for GP support is higher because again, the elite class YOU ARE A PART OF has destroyed us in secret while advocating for us in public.

So, no, too vague. Try again. Previous tactics that perhaps had merit in a vacuum or got you a pass publicly just don’t cut it anymore. That’s what the criticism is about but neither will understand or address the root cause because proximity to power is more alluring than justice.

I believe them

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So Im about as left leaning as it comes and I actually think the backlash here is really disheartening. The dominant groupthink is just immediately castigating based on attendance without considering that’s exactly how we end up in such a heated partisan climate.

Yes, the idea of an elite secret society should and does give me major ick. But we ALL should be open to communicating on topics that matter to our future (AI, media, technology, class/wealth distribution) with people who both share and oppose our values. This curiosity allows us to learn, communicate and advocate. I don’t think it suggests anything about the people who attended other than that they have enough influence or money to get a seat at the table.

Hypothetically, for people like Ezra Klein, Sophia bush and JGL who are (in theory) on opposing value spectrums to Peter Thiel, this is exactly the sort of forum that is worthwhile to understand how those positions are formed and argued, and from there to try to influence change aligned with their own perspectives. Why are we hating on the attendees and not the billionaires (again??). My suspicion is that this framing isn’t organic at all but rather stoking the culture wars fire, while deflecting blame to make sure future events are only attended by those who are happy to be labelled alongside the technocrats. This is actually how we LOSE power.

Shutting down all avenues of cross pollination might make us feel righteous but it doesn’t actually contribute anything. In a bizarro world where they invited random social workers with no money and power, I’d like to think I would accept the invitation and take the chance to understand the culture surrounding these powerful people and maybe plant a dissenting seed or two.

While there are some situations where attendance implies endorsing of activities (like joining a Klan meeting), to me this reads like a demonstration of how nuance is lost in soundbite tribalism where we immediately want to satisfy our drive to assign characters to a ‘side’ rather than take time understanding context and intention – in this case an explicitly bipartisan event literally labelled ‘dialogue’.

It’s always “there’s nuance to it” liberals word salad if they run out of arguments

So like can someone who’s familiar with the conferences in question fill me in on like how legitimate what Sophia is saying here is? From everything i had heard this was a Epstein class secret club thing he started or was a large part of like was there seriously an anti deepfake conference organized by said Peter thiel secret Epstein class club or was it a pro ai conference she was like the one guest invited to feign being unbiased on the topic despite being fucking Peter theil.

Like it’s not like we haven’t known how evil he and his ambitions have been for a long while. Idk maybe she made a bad decision in a stupid bid to reach both sides on a topic important to her? Idk I don’t care about celebrity shit but her advocacy has seemed to be legitimate at least to me from the outside view. Jgl I think is performative and fake from what I’ve seen and don’t really care much about him.

What I’m surprised about most is how few posts I’ve seen talking about fake ass Zionist Cory booker was on that list compared to the celebrity types. Like I already didn’t trust his schtick of making a huge show of some stunt like his filibuster but never voting in ways that matter or actually challenging the forces he decries so frequently.