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We talk about the movie Arrival on episode 67 “Don’t Liminal Me” of the What We Are Watching podcast!
Directed by Denis Villeneuve
Written by Eric Heisserer and Ted Chiang
Starring Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner, Forest Whitaker, Michael Stuhlbarg, Mark O’Brien, Tzi Ma, Abigail Pniowsky, Julia Scarlett Dan, Jadyn Malone, Frank Schorpion
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if you must it was
2016’s arrival arrival oh you love
arrival definitely one of my favorite
movies of all time absolutely uh I mean
look Amy Adams is off the charts uh off
the charts and uh look it was on the
other hand on the charts it was
nominated for five Academy Awards
winning one for I think best uh sound so
best sound hey I mean hey whatever take
the win take the win and I’m sorry to be
cvic best sound editing oh which I
actually did think uh I mean this is our
director of Dune of sakario many things
Dennis venu however you say it in French
excuse me yeah maybe um so this is I
mean the sound in that movie was amazing
I feel like it’s slightly challenging um
they’re using this music uh that is
repetitive and fantastic they also do a
lot of atmospheric things that you’re
like oh I think that’s what you know is
maybe what the sound of those aliens are
and is I thought very very good I liked
it a lot a lot so maybe sound editing
was a good award yeah yeah I just
watched rewatched Dune in preparation of
seeing Dune to and then I was doing a
little Deep dive on Denny and I don’t
know if I totally known that he was also
the director of arrival and I was like
oh yeah ral’s so good and you know you
just kind of go like I could do a whole
watchown of his stuff but the sound in
Dune one it creates a whole atmosphere
it’s so good I follow someone on Tik Tok
that’s a sound person cuz we do audio
here so I kind of have to know about
some stuff but usually it’s more like
entertainment value and she had said
something like for everyone that’s
nominated this year somebody’s like
wiping their the sweat off their brow
because Dune getting pushed from being
released in November to now in March
meant that it wasn’t available to be
nominated for the award so it opened up
the door for the actual uh you know
nominees this year so interesting cuz I
feel like it’ll probably whatever Dune
is going to be we haven’t seen it yet
but I’ll bet you the sound’s going to be
great look uh I think Dennis or Denny uh
does a fantastic job I’ve tried to see
all of his movies I haven’t yet seen all
of them there’s one or two early ones I
still haven’t seen uh however arrival is
definitely my favorite sorry it’s my
favorite and look I mean you got a lot
of other great people Jeremy rener
Forest wher Michael stolberg I mean it’s
just great who doesn’t want aliens um
time slipping and you know children
issues what a perfect combination the
most interesting thing of arrival to me
is the building of language that is such
a phenomenal thing to think about my
daughter who’s very interested in
linguistics the idea that like you could
have a whole different approach to
language and that they came up with that
to make this movie like where how’s a
different way of building a language
separate from the time thing but it goes
all the way back to my show gun uh-oh
mhm if you land somewhere oh yeah and
you don’t have the language how are you
going to
communicate
what SP that’s your plan Joe yeah no the
humans will totally understand it oh my
God I mean exactly so yeah but it’s that
point of like if you start you to
communicate when there’s no Common
Ground how do you do that it’s a really
good point uh yeah I mean that was one
of the problems right cuz they landed in
multiple places and they did try
different language approaches and one of
them you know perhaps worked less well
because everything was it was a game so
it was either winning or losing thank
God for Amy Adams she was really in
thank goodness an emotional scientist
basically empathy do we feel like in
that movie they’re doing that to Amy
Adams or she’s done that to herself cuz
if they’re doing it then why don’t we
have five other Amy Adams time travel
like people out of all the other ships
that landed what oh we can’t get into
that God if the aliens that landed like
we got to figure out how to talk to
someone
stop it’s like oh yeah uh if you do that
then one person will get a psychic
communication yeah and the other like
pilots on the other ships are like I
don’t know Dave’s weird he does that
dance none of us want to do that thing
it’s it’s too hard no one understands
that they can now travel through time in
their own timeline
doing a spin out yeah he is doing a spin
out but I mean isn’t the point that
Amy’s character was the only one who
understood the language enough to
disconnect from time right she truly and
I mean through her own efforts and
through the you know kind of uh meeting
of cooperation with them uh was able to
accomplish that and look maybe in their
I mean as they said you know we’re doing
this now so you can help us later you’re
not able to help us now maybe this was
you know as a Ben incum batch might say
the one way where it would happen and
yes they had to go through and just like
well you guys got to work with these
other people it’s not going to work out
who cares but you have to do it so that
this other one way can work well and I
think also the arrival is on the list of
like best twist endings not like twist
ending ending but like best twist in
that like there’s the big reveal I won’t
say what it is if you’ve never seen it
but just understanding like oh
everything I’ve seen up to this point
now means something completely different
at you know when you understand what’s
really happening yeah I mean look uh
sometimes people find that challenging
especially when there’s like one set of
scenes that are really on a different
timeline or with a different you know
you need to be thinking of it a
different way and you’re not set up from
that from the beginning and so you don’t
realize that until later uh that is
challenging sometimes but I think it
works well enough I think it works
amazing uh yeah well I like it yeah
apparently with the rewatch do you have
any idea how many times you’ve watched
it uh no un fortunately I think I only
have three noted times but that does not
include uh there was a period where I
watched it on a DVD many times so I
think I’m 10 plus 10 plus okay all right
and not a real clarification or
correction but Katherine you did say the
arrival and this is arrival not Charlie
Sheen’s the arrival which has a sequel
the arrival too okay now I’d like you
know Denny to get working on the sequel
to arrival departure but what you
whatever get get there my man
arrival departure the arrival okay
anyway I’m glad I was not talking about
the wrong arrival that would have been
hysterical I’m like oh yeah and the
Charlie Sheen movie