Joe Manganiello, Jonathan Lemire, Zarna Garg | Late Night with Seth Meyers

Joe Manganiello, Jonathan Lemire, Zarna Garg | Late Night with Seth Meyers

-You know our first guest from shows such as "True Blood" and movies like "Archenemy," Zack Snyder’s "Justice League," and the "Magic Mike" franchise. He hosts "Deal or No Deal Island," which airs Mondays on MSM — jeez. NBC? Is that what we’re called? Is it now? Are they going with NBC? That’s what it is? Alright. I don’t know if it’s gonna stick. It’s available the next day on Peacock. Let’s take a look. -There are two different locations within the maze containing cases. Low-value cases in one area, high-value cases in another. Everyone has an important decision to make in terms of which case to go after. The high-value cases are the hardest to reach, which means going for one of those puts you at greater risk of finishing last. -Last. [ Exhales deeply ] -There are no more second chances. The last guest to emerge from the maze will be eliminated immediately. -Wow. -Oh, geez. -Please welcome back to the show, Joe Manganiello, everybody! [ Cheers and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ Oh, my God, you look so sharp. -Whew. Thank you. Peyman Umay makes these great suits for me. -I feel like you’re taking advantage of being off the island now. You can wear your proper suits. -I’m not sweating through everything. I don’t have to have four of everything. -Yeah, so this is "Deal or No Deal." We’re all familiar with that show Howie Mandel hosted. But now this is on an island, and it seems to have sort of the elements of a "Survivor"-type show to it. -That’s right. Yeah. Actually, the entire crew from Australian "Survivor" came up and were our crew. But the show is also run by a man named Matt Kunitz, who created "Fear Factor." -Okay. -And then our story team is the all-star story team that did, like, 20 years of "Big Brother." -So it’s a lot of the best of game shows and reality shows all put together on one island? -All put together into one, with a bit of, like, a, you know, depraved billionaire owns this island, invites 13 guests to his island in order to find his equal. -It is a real reminder, you know, when a billionaire invites you to an island, just think twice. -It’s topical. -It’s topical right now. So there are cases hidden all over the island? -Yeah. That’s right. $200 million is hidden in briefcases all over the island. -So you gotta remember where you hide them. -Me, for sure. -NBC, which is what they’re now calling themselves. If you come back and you’re like, "We lost some of the cases," that’s going to be a bad scene. -"Joe, get back out there." -"Get back out there." -"Go find that case." Yeah. -And there are some familiar faces for people who like this kind of show. -For people who like this kind of show, myself included. I was a "Survivor" junkie, and when I got to the island, they said, "Oh, well, you know, Boston Rob’s flying in this morning." I said, "What’s he doing here?" They said, "No, he’s one of the guests." I went, "Get out of here," you know? But of course, I had to hide that, because it’s up to the players to reveal that or Rob to reveal that or not. Like, I don’t interfere. -So you’re just doing so much hiding. -All kinds of hiding. -You’re hiding cases. You’re hiding guests. It’s just so, so much hiding. -And then Claudia Jordan, who people know from "Real Housewives," and also, she was one of the original briefcase girls. -Oh, really? Get out of town. -So she’s seen — She’s had the million dollar case a few times. She’s seen so many deals go down. So the two of them being there put targets on their back immediately. -Gotcha. So was this something that you ever thought you would do, host a show like this? -I had been offered hosting jobs before, but, you know, I come from that generation where it was TV or film, and then HBO happened and it was like, "Oh, okay, you can do TV." -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -You know, and then it was like, "Well, you can only do commercials if they’re in Japan." And then it was like, "No, no, no." Now everybody’s doing commercials in America. For me, I watched "Survivor" like a junkie. Like, when I was on set or in some foreign country, it’s always me and the dog brushing my teeth, watching "Survivor" episodes, you know? And so when they called me and explained the job to me, it was basically, "Do you want to be the next Jeff Probst?" And of course I do. You don’t know who you’re talking to. -That’s fantastic. -So I was really excited to do this specifically. -Obviously, we can tell from the clip, it is, you know, it’s a beautiful island, but it’s stressful for contestants on a show like this. Everybody wants to win. Money’s at stake. Do you actually get to enjoy the island at all because you’re not a contestant? Or because you’re sort of so involved with the production of the show, it’s a full-time job? -I’m very, very involved with the production. I work six-day weeks when I’m there, and on the seventh day, I’m usually training, catching up, meeting with the story team, who hates who, getting all the tea. You know, who’s teaming up with who. -Do you feel like if you continue to do this show, do you think you could clock faster who hates who? When you saw them, do you feel like now you’d be like, "Oh, yeah." -I’ll tell you what, though, there were so many surprises, especially in the beginning. And not to give this away for anyone who hasn’t binge-watched it yet on Peacock, but, like, there was a distinct villain over the first four episodes, and I could not believe who it was. I said, "What do you mean? That sweet person is the villain?" And they said, "You have no idea what’s going on in camp." So no matter what you think, you’re going to be shocked at kind of the… -I’d be so bad at this, because I’m going to just say it. I would be like, "I did come here to make friends." -That might be a good strategy, though. -It might be a good strategy. So if you were going to do one of these reality shows, a competitor, do you think you’d be any good at it? -I mean, yeah, I think I could win, for sure. -Really? -Yeah. I think I could win "Survivor." Well, see, the trick about "Survivor" is I’d be really good at getting everyone things to eat, catching the animals, catching the fish, climbing the trees, winning the challenges. As soon as everyone merges and it’s every person for themselves, they’re going to go right after me, so I’d have to win immunity every time. -Gotcha. -But I will say I did stand there looking at our game, thinking, "I would switch places with any of you right now — like, I want to –" I wanted to play. -Oh, you wanted in? -Oh, I wanted in. -Excellent. -Yeah, yeah. -Do you feel that way when you watch sports? Because you played — You were an athlete growing up. Do you still…? Yeah. I mean, you still think, "I want in there"? -To a degree. I mean, it was interesting. I was at the airport recently, and this woman came over, the waitress came over and said, "You know, you’re a lot smaller than I thought." And I went, "I’m 6’5, 250. How big did you — "6’8", 280?" I go, "What?" And she goes, "Well, I don’t know. I guess the camera adds pounds." And my girlfriend said, "You know, he’s bigger than most football players." And she said, "Well, not Travis Kelce." "Travis Kelce’s 6’5, 250." And it was like, we got into this kind of standoff. -It’s so funny to go up to the biggest guy in the airport and be like, "Nah." -Yeah. -Can I tell you something exciting about me? Not to make you feel bad. You know what I get all the time? "Taller than I thought you’d be." And you know why? Because I sit all — I’m only sat on television. So people see me, they’re like, "Look at you. There’s a whole bottom half." -Next season, I’m going to have, like, a wheelchair or something. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you should have a desk on the beach. I think that — nobody does enough desks. -You are eliminated. -Yeah, exactly. Just like, stamping. -Whoosh. -We have talked in the past. We share a couple things. We share a birthday. -Oh, yeah. -And we’re both huge Pittsburgh Steelers fans. [ Cheering ] Look at that. -Yes! Everybody like the draft? -[ Silence ] No? It was, like, the best draft. -That was a massively weird thing. They was so excited about the Steelers and then they had no reaction to the first follow-up. "Uhh." -I’m gonna leave the questioning to you. -Yeah. No, I was very happy with the draft. But I wanted to ask you this question. We’ve gone to games in Pittsburgh, and there’s a thing sometimes, they go, "Hey, uh, you know, you’re a sort of a well-known fan." Terrible Towel twirl. Have you done it? -I’ve done it a bunch. -I think you’d be so much better. So this is, you go out and you whip the towel around, and this crowd goes crazy. I just want to say, I bet you’re so much better at it than I was. I just think I don’t — when I do this, I feel like people are like, "He’s not supposed to be doing that." -Alright. -I bet you’re just amazing. -I don’t want to blow you up right now, but I usually do two. -You do two towels at once? -Yeah, yeah. -I said, "Can I do two?" And they were like, "We don’t think you got the arm strength." -They’re like, "Show us one first, and then…" -By the way, that was, like, seven years ago. They’ve never asked again. -I can make a phone call. -Oh, thank you so much. Thanks for being here, buddy. Congrats on the show. Always a pleasure. -Go, Steelers. -Go, Steelers! Joe Manganiello, everybody! "Deal or No Deal Island," Mondays at 10:00 p.m. on NBC and is available the next day on Peacock. We’ll be right back with Jonathan Lemire. Our next guest is a "New York Times" best-selling author, POLITICO’s White House bureau chief and the host of "Way Too Early with Jonathan Lemire," which airs weekdays at 5:00 a.m. on MSNBC. Please welcome back to the show, our friend Jonathan Lemire. [ Cheers and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ Welcome back. I’m always so flattered when you make time for us, considering you got to this building at what time? -I walk in at about 4:30 every morning, -4:30 a.m. -After my alarm goes off, about 3:15. I splash some water on my face, try to consume some coffee and then sail in because at that hour, Seth, no traffic. -No traffic. -No traffic whatsoever. -It might sound bad, but no traffic. -No traffic. So everything else — -And then it’s basically you have what ends up being about a 5-hour shift on TV because you do your show, then you stick around for "Morning Joe," and that is quite a gauntlet to run first thing in the morning to be on camera for ultimately, you know, five hours. -Yeah. My legs go numb about halfway through. -Yeah, that makes sense. -Yeah, my show is way too early. It’s the way to bring the comprehensive but succinct news of the day. Get everyone started to know what they need to know as they head out the door. And then I’m flattered to have a perch on "Morning Joe" for the next four hours. Joe and Mika and Willie have built an institution. -This is my — I really enjoy this headline. "Governor Kristi Noem stands by decision to kill her dog." -Yes, we cover the stories that really matter. -You cover this story as well. And there was an 8-person, uh, talking head boxes about this one. -We had complete team coverage. We flooded the zone to talk about the execution in a gravel pit. -It is very nice in this day and age to have something that everybody agrees on. And it seems like, uh, Democrats and Republicans all sort of collectively agree that she maybe shouldn’t have put in her book, that she killed her dog. -A rare bipartisan issue. -Yes. -Where whether you were on the right or on the left, we agree that you, "A," shouldn’t execute your dog in a gravel pit. -Yeah. -And then, "B," shouldn’t boast about it in your book. -Yeah, and you shouldn’t tell people the name of the dog in the book, because Cricket doesn’t sound like a dog who deserves it. -No. -Yeah, see? [ Laughs ] -And especially Cricket, who was killed by the governor’s own admission because "too joyful." -Yeah. -Too happy. Wouldn’t control himself during a hunt. -Yeah. And there you go. It feels like everybody here is super happy we’re still talking about it. -Yes. I mean, we did it for five hours this morning. So what’s one more now? -Sometimes it must feel like when you’re on a sort of an 8-person panel like this, um, and Joe Scarborough, who I always enjoy that he calls you by your first and last name. -Yes. Every time. -Every single time. And sometimes he will have sort of, it feels like a comprehensive windup to the question. How many words in edgewise do you feel like you get during that 4-hour "Morning Joe" chunk? -Comprehensive windup is delicately put. -Thank you. -Yes. I mean, I’ve been on the show every day for years, and it’s still "Jonathan Lemire" every time. Uh, and yes. And Joe is, I mean, he is singularly talented. Joe Scarborough, remarkable at what he does. He’ll be the first to admit he can be a little verbose. And sometimes he will start a question by calling out my name, "Jonathan Lemire," camera will cut to me, we’ll be in a two shot. Seven minutes later, I’m still there working on my facial expression, trying to remember what he asked me before he winds up. -Well, you do a very good job. Both of you are very good at your job, and it’s very nice. Uh, yeah. He’s a very good point guard. He runs the floor. -No doubt, no doubt. -Uh, incredibly well. You went to Columbia University? -I did. -Columbia University in the news, right now, Columbia University has a — I feel is very proud of their history of student protests. Would you say that’s accurate having gone there? -No question, you know, when I was a student there, the only things we protested were just how bad the football team was. But on a — on a serious note, yes. I mean, during the Vietnam War, Columbia was sort of the epicenter of protests against that conflict. There have been a number of cases since, including an anti-apartheid protest in the 1980s. And we’re seeing that again now. And certainly let’s be clear, there is a space for peaceful protest. And most of the students who are on campus are doing exactly that, protesting what they see in Gaza and doing it peacefully. But not everyone. And there are some outside agitators involved, too. And there’s certainly no place for any kind of the hateful rhetoric and the violence that we’ve started to see. -There’s also, right now, um, there’s a trial of a former president. You’re aware. -Yes, I’ve heard. -It has been — I mean, it’s obviously shocking that’s happening. But, you know, we’re in the beginning of week three. What have you been most shocked by or if there’s anything specific? -What I am most shocked by is that first of all, this is history. It’s the first time a former president, uh, has stood criminal trial. And yet that’s not enough to keep him awake. -Yeah. -Because he is falling asleep on a daily basis inside that courtroom. And today he was — he was held in contempt. -Yes. Now, it was — it was nine counts of contempt. -[ Cheers and applause ] -Well, hold on. Yes, yes, but he was — before they get too excited, do you want to tell them the total charges? -So it was nine counts of contempt for social media posts that were deemed to have violated the gag order. Each count drew a fine of $1,000, and Donald Trump may not be as rich as he claims to be, but he can still afford that. -That’s Judge Doctor Evil, I think was who… -Precisely. -…fined him $1,000. -What is noteworthy, though, is that the judge — and there’s another hearing about other possible gag order violations later this week — he has said the penalties could be escalatory, and he’s not ruling out even a night or two in jail. But we’re a long way from that. -Yeah. So do you think that you basically have to lay down this base coat if you are going to escalate? You have to — Especially because, you know, I mean, it goes without saying that Donald Trump is going to attack the judge anytime he makes a ruling against him. So do you just want to say, "Look, I’m being reasonable now, $1,000, you know, a $9,000 fine. That is reasonable. We all know that’s reasonable. But I also want to let you know that, you know, I have to draw the line somewhere." -I think that’s exactly right. And we’ve had legal experts on the shows who have said that, that it’s important for the judge to establish, like, "Look, we are going to treat you like any other defendant. We would fine another defendant, we’re going to do that with you as well," and hope that he gets the message. If past his prologue, he won’t. -Yes. Donald Trump back in the day, obviously, I think anybody who lives in the city has experience with him, especially with being a reporter, he actually tried to or I believe he thought he was trying to help you out. -[ Chuckles ] Yes. And I cover this story in my book. So I was a reporter at the "New York Daily News," it was one of the tabloid papers here in the city. I was an intern, it was the summer of 2001, and I was sent to get a quote from Trump. He appeared at some random event, and it didn’t really matter, but we wanted to ask him about something else. So I dutifully went, and there was a scrum afterward at the event, and he took a few questions and I asked — I was in the middle of asking whatever it was that I needed, and he looked at me. I suddenly realized he looked at me and he looked to the next to me, and he was like, "Hey," And he pointed at me and he pointed to the young female reporter next to me, and was like, "Hey, are you two — Are you two together?" And I looked at her, a woman I had never seen before in my life. And I was like, "No, we’re most certainly not." And he paused, went, "Oh, well, you both have red hair. So I just assumed you guys were together." Now, at that moment, I’m 21 years old, this is one of my first assignments, I’m an intern, I just started out and my thought was, "Does Donald Trump think couples come color coded?" And even then I was like, "Wouldn’t it make more sense if we were brother, sister, if we both had red hair?" So, but I– -See, that’s it, he threw you off your game. -I didn’t voice that. Yeah, he got away with it. And then news conference mercifully wraps up. And then afterwards, he beckons me over. The other woman, thankfully had left. And he was like, "You guys, really, you aren’t together?" I was like, "No, no." He’s like, "But would you want to be? I can make that happen." Now the follow ups to this are — first of all, I never saw that woman again in my life. Let me say hi to my wife right now. And secondly, I did not take Donald Trump up on his matchmaking ability, which may be why, a couple decades later, he called me a sleazebag and later the most boring man on television. He held a grudge. He held a grudge. -Absolutely, he’s like, "I tried to get two redheads together, and this guy drove a wedge between true love." -Yeah, so, I mean, I have had exactly zero second thoughts about that decision. But it’s, you know, now a good story to tell on a talk show. -Hey, thanks so much for being here. It’s always a pleasure. -My pleasure. -Jonathan Lemire. "Way Too Early with Jonathan Lemire" airs weekdays at 5:00 a.m. on MSNBC. We’ll be right back with Zarna Garg. Our next guest is a very funny comedian who will be performing at the Netflix Is a Joke Fest in Los Angeles, May 6th through May 8th. She’s also the host of "The Zarna Garg Family Podcast." Please welcome to the show Zarna Garg, everybody! [ Cheers and applause ] ♪♪ ♪♪ Welcome to the show, Zarna! -Thank you so much for having me! I’m so excited to be here. -I got to meet you. You were opening for Tina and Amy on their Restless Leg tour. You were so funny. I got to meet you backstage. Here’s a lovely photo of the two of us. You also celebrated a birthday, uh, backstage with this lovely group of people. Um, how was it working with Tina and Amy? -Oh, I mean, first of all, you know, I totally planned that whole birthday thing. It wasn’t around that time, but I was like, "Why not?" -Oh, so the time that you — So, you got the cake for yourself, not on your birthday? -We just made it happen. -Okay, great. -Yeah. But Tina and Amy — great, amazing. You know, they’re the OGs of comedy. It was so fun working with them. They’re so warm and inviting. But here’s the thing. Like, a lot of times, we would hang out backstage, and I kind of had to pretend like I knew what I was talking about, because I didn’t grow up watching "SNL." -Sure. -Like, Saturday nights were for studying. I mean, I’m Indian. We don’t believe in fun. -Right, right, right. -It’s not what we do. -[ Laughing ] Uh-huh. -So they would turn to me and say things like, "You know Steve, right?" And I would be like, "Steve, my son’s chess tutor?" [ Laughter ] "Steve Jobs? Stephen Hawking?" You know, my mind would be racing, and they would — I knew. Then, I was, "Oh, Steve Martin." -Yeah, that’s their Steve, right. -That’s their Steve. And you know — Do you know that Steve Martin, he’s a big deal? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Yeah, I learned. -That’s good, you know that now. -Yeah, yeah, I do. -We both do a podcast with our family. I do it with my brother. But you do the whole family. -Yes. -How does your family feel about being on a podcast, and in general, the way you tell a lot of jokes about your family? -Well, here’s the thing. I realized one day — I was like, "Why am I the only one working?" -Yeah. -Do you know what I mean? I was like, "Put them to work." -Yeah. -And they’re a good-looking bunch. Wouldn’t you say? -You have a very handsome family. -And just put all those cheekbones to work. -Yeah. And you know, they say, "When you’re good-looking, do a podcast." -Oh. -How do they feel about — How does your husband feel about you talking about, uh… -Listen, what we’ve learned is that the world loves listening to us, watching us bicker, talk about all our family problems. We kind of talk about things that are secret in our community. -Mm-hmm. -Like my husband losing his job or, you know, my guilt at being a working mom, which I don’t really have it. But for the podcast… -Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to, like, pretend. -Something. You know how it goes. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Yeah, but they love it. The kids love it. You know? Everybody seems to enjoy it. And I love your podcast. -Oh, thank you. -I love it. I mean, we don’t really take vacations, because, again, we’re Indian. -Okay. -But we understand. You’re a white person, so… -Thank you. -We love watching. You know? -You love hearing about our travel. -Yeah. -Yeah. That’s so sweet of you. -Sometimes I steal the stories also. Sometimes I’ll pretend. -I’ll feel like you’re, um… Sometimes maybe listening to your podcast, it feels like maybe you’re not outwardly affectionate to your husband. Do you feel like that’s accurate? -Oh, um…well, you know… [ Chuckles ] We just celebrated 25 years being together. -Congratulations. -Right? [ Cheers and applause ] Thank you! See, this is why I love my American audience. Because here in America, if you’re not divorced, you’re a hero. -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. -If I had said the same thing back home in India, "I’ve been married 25 years," they would have been like, "What do you want, a participation trophy?" But I’m not — I’ve never said "I love you" to my husband. That’s not something we do. -Mm-hmm. -Not to him, anyway. That came out wrong. Maybe to the kids, maybe someday. -Okay. One day. -One day. -If they make you — If they earn it. -Yeah. I mean, the big secret to the success of my marriage is that we don’t communicate. -Uh-huh. [ Laughter ] -No, really. All my friends who like to communicate, they all communicating with their divorce lawyers. [ Laughter ] So we keep it very simple. -Do you show — Is there any way you show affection to your husband? -Yes, of course. I mean, just because I don’t say, "I love you, I love you –" because, you know, in America, everywhere you go, "I love you. Uber driver, I love you." You know, Duane Reade guy gives you a bag. "I really love you." Like, relax. I don’t say it, but I show him my love. -Oh, that’s sweet. -I check all his e-mails for him. No, I replace all his loser friends with my friends. -That’s so sweet. -And just for your audience, today I’m going to give you a pro-grade trip. -Pro-grade. -Yeah it’s pro-grade because I’ve — I’ve, like, researched this. Nothing naughty is happening over e-mail anymore. -Really? -Yes. All of it has moved to LinkedIn DMs. -No! [ Laughter ] That’s where the shady stuff is happening? -Yes! And how do I know this? One day, my husband fell asleep with his laptop open. -Uh-huh. -Now, first of all, if it’s already open, then it’s not my fault if I see something. -Right. -Right? -Absolutely. -And I was just cleaning it. Wiping it clean, make it nice for him. -Okay. -And his Link– -[ Laughing loudly ] -Yeah. Hmm? [ Laughter ] And his LinkedIn DMs popped up. -Okay. -And there was a message from one of his work colleagues, Anjali. -Okay. -She’s like, "Hey, Shalabh, congrats on the new job. We should catch up." [ Laughter ] I said, "Let me just take care of this for him." -Mm-hmm. -And I just wrote her back. I said, "No need to catch up. He’s dead." [ Laughter ] [ Applause ] -So sweet. So sweet. [ Cheers and applause ] We have something in common in our acts. We both — And I should note, I’m a big fan of my mother-in-law, but I have told a few stories about her. You’ve told a few about yours. How is that met — How is that embraced in Indian culture? -Well, the truth is that when I first started doing comedy, I didn’t tell her I was doing it. -Okay. -But her bitchy friends follow me on social media and then run and go report me to her. -Oh, no. -So she called me and she goes, "Is it true you make jokes about me?" I was like, "Kind of." You know, downplay. -Sure, sure. -And then she’s like, "You make money doing this?" I said, "Sort of." And then she got really quiet. So I got nervous. I was like, "Are you upset with me? Do you want me to stop?" And she said, "If it makes money, you tell people that your father-in-law has only one testicle." [ Laughter ] [ Applause ] -[ Laughs ] That’s so kind of her. -Yeah. -You have a new — You’re touring with a new show called "Practical People Win." -Yes. -Tell us the — I mean, that seems like it’s explaining itself, but what’s the idea behind it? -Well, first of all, thank you for bringing it up. I was so not prepared to talk about this. [ Laughter ] But I am touring with my show "Practical People," and tickets are available on my website. And this show is very, very simple. It gives people all the secrets on how to live a successful life, despite all the nonsense that’s going on in the world right now. You know, because there’s so much going on, and I think somebody needs to say the most basic things like, you know, you’ve heard this phrase "Think outside the box." -Yeah. -Yeah? I’m not a fan of that phrase. -Okay. What’s your problem? -Personally, I like the box. -Okay. Everybody stay in the box. Staying in the box is how we became the people who produced doctors, engineers, CEOs. You know how many CEOs are Indian in this country right now? -How many? -Lots. Lots and lots. Google, Microsoft, IBM, you can name it. So many of them. And, like, the Indian CEO is like the new Labradoodle. -Okay. -Everybody wants one. -Everybody wants one? -Everybody wants one. It’s a thing. Like, the spot opens up and they’re like… But somebody needs to say it, because in America they tell the kids, "You can be anything you want to be." And here’s the thing. I’m happy to tell somebody that your 5’6" kid is not gonna play for the Knicks. -Yeah. -Right? But he could become a statistician for the Knicks. And they also get free tickets. -That’s not bad. That’s not bad. -Right? -You have — Is it true that you have an issue with children’s books? ‘Cause you know I wrote one. -Yes, I know you wrote one. And I liked your book. I really did. It’s about the bear that’s scared to make friends and all of that. -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. -I like the book, but you really didn’t have to go through so much trouble. I could have fixed this bear’s problem very quickly. If he just joined Doctors Without Borders, he would have a lot of friends. -Okay. -But I do have a problem with children’s books today. Because children’s books in America all tell the kids the same thing. "If you dream it, you can become it. If you imagine it, you are it." What even is "it"? -Yeah. -Right? Not a single children’s book in America tells kids to shut up and study. You have kids, right? -Yeah, I have two boys and a girl. -Two boys. Well done, Seth. Whoo-hoo! [ Laughter ] [ Cheers and applause ] -Hey! [ Laughs ] -[ Laughs ] -Wait, uh — -The one girl, you can’t feel bad about because, like, every family gets a challenge, you know? -Yeah, yeah. -Yeah. But these kids, they need to hear it. You know what I mean? -You have a poem. A very helpful poem. -Well, I — You know, I wasn’t going to do this, but because I love your show so much, I’m going to make this a world exclusive, right here, just for you. -You’re going to share a poem you’ve never shared? -I’m going to share a poem. I was like — I was saving it because I’m writing the first-ever "Practical Parents’ Guide to Parenting." -Okay. -And my book is called "It’s Never Too Late to Take the MCATs." -Okay. -Would you like to hear a snippet? -I would love to hear a snippet. -Okay. Thank you. Just one second. -You brought this? -Yeah, it’s an Indian-auntie pocket I got… -Okay, gotcha. -I have it. Okay, here goes. You ready for this? -Yeah, yeah, yeah. -Okay. "People tell their kids they can be policemen, firemen, cowboys, or astronauts — all dangerous jobs that don’t pay a lot. We make our kids study and focus on the practical — science, technology, engineering, mathematical. Dreams of going to Mars won’t get them a scholarship. But you know what will? Designing that rocket ship." [ Laughter ] "In reality, you can’t be anything you want. That’s just a fact. But here is the good news. It’s never too late to take the MCATs!" [ Cheers and applause ] -Thank you! Zarna Garg, everyone! For tickets to her tour, go to zarnagarg.com. We’ll be right back with more "Late Night."

Seth sits down to speak with Joe Manganiello about hosting NBC’s Deal or No Deal Island and Jonathan Lemire about Trump’s criminal trial before chatting with Zarna Garg about celebrating her birthday with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler (original airdate April 30, 2024).

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